Newbornbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 You're completely, utterly hatstand aren't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/the-novichok-story-is-indeed-another-iraqi-wmd-scam/ Eh? Quote The UK is refusing to provide a sample to the OPCW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweeperDee Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: It's a black and white law, it's not open to interpretation. Who has been assassinated merely for badmouthing the Queen or Prime Minister in the last hundred years? Professor David Kelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: Eh? https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/ The UK is required by treaty to supply Russia with a sample of the material it has collected in order to make these accusations. It has refused to do so. You won't hear that on the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 Similar to Afghanistan. You won't have heard this on the BBC either. In 2001 the USA with our backing made an ultimatum to the Taliban (who George Bush himself had hosted as guests of honour in Texas very recently, and who we armed and trained) to hand over bin Laden or face invasion. Their reaction was the same as any states would have been. They said okay show us some proof he's responsible for 9-11 and you can have him. We refused to do so. Didn't give them anything at all. Bin Laden was never indicted for 9-11 btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 11 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2018/03/of-a-type-developed-by-liars/ The UK is required by treaty to supply Russia with a sample of the material it has collected in order to make these accusations. It has refused to do so. You won't hear that on the BBC. Posting random stuff by Craig Murray does not really help your argument. The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has also refused to hand the main suspect a sample, I wonder why. Meanwhile the Russian media is chundering out different conspiracy theories every day. It's MH17 all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Posting random stuff by Craig Murray does not really help your argument. The Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons has also refused to hand the main suspect a sample, I woander why. Meanwhile the Russian media is chundering out different conspiracy theories every day. It's MH17 all over again. And you don't think our media has been doing the same? Really? Tell us why they would refuse then. I would say that they're under enormous pressure from us and the USA not to. Give me your theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 And it's a nerve agent that We don't even know exists If it does is very easy to make To identify it you have to be able to synthesise it (ergo we can make it) We, along with Israel and France and the USA, are the world leaders in this field with the largest stockpiles Therefore when they say 'of a type developed by Russia' the bit they leave out is it's not only developed by Russia (and we're not even sure it's that particular type) it's also developed by us too. And it was found eight miles from where we develop it, and we have so far given five different sources for it to the media, you'd think that might be slightly suspicious no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Similar to Afghanistan. You won't have heard this on the BBC either. In 2001 the USA with our backing made an ultimatum to the Taliban (who George Bush himself had hosted as guests of honour in Texas very recently, and who we armed and trained) to hand over bin Laden or face invasion. Their reaction was the same as any states would have been. They said okay show us some proof he's responsible for 9-11 and you can have him. We refused to do so. Didn't give them anything at all. Bin Laden was never indicted for 9-11 btw. Bush knew Bin Laden wasn't involved in 9/11, as their families had been close friends for many years before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob the tank Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 I bought this on holiday in Virginia, USA when it was first published. Anybody reading this would have anything they have ever thought about America or big business confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 Britain [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Peppino Impastato said: https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/03/porton-down-experts-unable-to-verify-precise-source-of-novichok?__twitter_impression=true British government in lying through their teeth shocker I think you have cracked the code, click this link for more of this important expose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 17 minutes ago, bob the tank said: Bush knew Bin Laden wasn't involved in 9/11, as their families had been close friends for many years before hand. That's true, and bin Laden's brother was in a meeting with bush snr when the planes hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, bob the tank said: I bought this on holiday in Virginia, USA when it was first published. Anybody reading this would have anything they have ever thought about America or big business confirmed. I'll look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 48 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: And you don't think our media has been doing the same? Really? Tell us why they would refuse then. I would say that they're under enormous pressure from us and the USA not to. Give me your theory. Corrupting the evidence? From their track record of denial, deflection, different explanation of what happened every day, then eventual admission years later, that's exactly what they'd do. Big press conference saying the best Russian scientists have got together and proved a big boy did it and ran away. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/vladimir-putin-admits-russian-military-presence-ukraine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Corrupting the evidence? From their track record of denial, deflection, different explanation of what happened every day, then eventual admission years later, that's exactly what they'd do. Big press conference saying the best Russian scientists have got together and proved a big boy did it and ran away. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/17/vladimir-putin-admits-russian-military-presence-ukraine What do you mean? They can't corrupt our samples. They are simply entitled to see why we blame them, just as a defendant in a criminal trial is entitled to see the evidence against them. You don't think we have a similar track record? Come on man open your eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: What do you mean? They can't corrupt our samples. They are simply entitled to see why we blame them, just as a defendant in a criminal trial is entitled to see the evidence against them. You don't think we have a similar track record? Come on man open your eyes If we or the OPCW gave them a sample, assuming they are responsible they would adjust it to point at someone else, and just stand on it's our word or theirs, combined with a big bot and media campaign. It's an old tactic when they're caught out, never admit anything and keep chundering out conspiracy theories until soft folk can't tell between made up nonsense and what they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 19 minutes ago, welshbairn said: If we or the OPCW gave them a sample, assuming they are responsible they would adjust it to point at someone else, and just stand on it's our word or theirs, combined with a big bot and media campaign. It's an old tactic when they're caught out, never admit anything and keep chundering out conspiracy theories until soft folk can't tell between made up nonsense and what they did. FFS man this is pish. The they are entitled to see all evidence against them. I give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 3, 2018 Share Posted April 3, 2018 7 minutes ago, Peppino Impastato said: FFS man this is pish. The they are entitled to see all evidence against them. I give up. I'm pretty sure even in a criminal trial the prosecution don't have to hand the murder weapon over to the accused for examination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppino Impastato Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share Posted April 3, 2018 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I'm pretty sure even in a criminal trial the prosecution don't have to hand the murder weapon over to the accused for examination. They do to his fkn lawyer though don't they, and they don't get to decide that's the murder weapon they need to prove it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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