jm86 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Did he lob it or chuck it? What was the correct procedure anyway? Leave it lying on the pitch or chuck it in the back of the net.? Both obvious health and safety issues. Can be lethal that 3 ply stuff. Classic blazer episode this. They just love this kind of stuff where they can get off on some kind of power trip. If I was of a conspiratorial frame of mind (heaven forfend) I would wonder why this happened just days before what is probably our most important fixture to date. I demand a judicial inquiry. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreig Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 hours ago, HMIP said: I can be pretty blinkered when it comes to my club, but I don’t see how there’s any defence for McAdams. Even if the object itself is fairly innocuous, the SFA will still view it as inflammatory behaviour and hand out a ban. Does a professional football player really need to be told that? Clearly that is true but in the heat of the moment I am not at all surprised he threw it back, I assume he had been on the receiving end of abuse for the whole half and he must have been super frustrated at the manner of the penalty being conceded. Was a two game ban really required? Would one not have been sufficient? Is there some guideline on "inflammatory behaviour" that makes it a two game ban minimum? Incidentally, when the flares landed on the pitch I saw Muirhead pick them up and I feared the worst (i.e. I thought he would be 99% certain to throw them straight into the crowd sparking mayhem) but to his credit he calmly moved them to the side of the pitch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1nickydevlin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Its all fjortofts fault. And his oaf like challenge. Did leigh griffiths get banned for kicking a flare high into the stands a couple months back?think it hit a fan . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 19 minutes ago, rgreig said: Clearly that is true but in the heat of the moment I am not at all surprised he threw it back, I assume he had been on the receiving end of abuse for the whole half and he must have been super frustrated at the manner of the penalty being conceded. Was a two game ban really required? Would one not have been sufficient? Is there some guideline on "inflammatory behaviour" that makes it a two game ban minimum? Incidentally, when the flares landed on the pitch I saw Muirhead pick them up and I feared the worst (i.e. I thought he would be 99% certain to throw them straight into the crowd sparking mayhem) but to his credit he calmly moved them to the side of the pitch. I remember Michael Rose launching one right out the ground at Alloa. Funny at the time, but if he’d brained a passer by outside in the street, I shudder to think what the compliance officer would have said. Or the police. Looks like Leigh Griffiths is going to get a criminal conviction for booting a flare into the crowd, so maybe the SFA are keen to show they can self police this sort of behaviour and McAdams was in the wrong place at the wrong time. But in the end, I’m not the least bit impressed with the “heat of the moment” argument. I’ve been going to games for 40 years, and can’t honestly remember a player throwing something into the crowd - if the referee had spotted it, it would likely have been a red card, so maybe that’s where the 2 match ban comes from. Almost inevitable that Albinson will drop a clanger tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 17 minutes ago, HMIP said: I remember Michael Rose launching one right out the ground at Alloa. Funny at the time, but if he’d brained a passer by outside in the street, I shudder to think what the compliance officer would have said. Or the police. Looks like Leigh Griffiths is going to get a criminal conviction for booting a flare into the crowd, so maybe the SFA are keen to show they can self police this sort of behaviour and McAdams was in the wrong place at the wrong time. But in the end, I’m not the least bit impressed with the “heat of the moment” argument. I’ve been going to games for 40 years, and can’t honestly remember a player throwing something into the crowd - if the referee had spotted it, it would likely have been a red card, so maybe that’s where the 2 match ban comes from. Almost inevitable that Albinson will drop a clanger tomorrow. Would it have been a red card though? I would expect a booking during a game, but would be surprised to see a red card for someone chucking something soft back into the crowd. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 That's a farcical decision. As Richey said, I'd ban the fucking mutants that threw it from Somerset. Frankly, the most suprising thing is that DKBs know what toilet roll is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Trogdor said: That's a farcical decision. As Richey said, I'd ban the fucking mutants that threw it from Somerset. Frankly, the most suprising thing is that DKBs know what toilet roll is. Ha ha good one. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgreig Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 32 minutes ago, HMIP said: But in the end, I’m not the least bit impressed with the “heat of the moment” argument. I’ve been going to games for 40 years, and can’t honestly remember a player throwing something into the crowd - if the referee had spotted it, it would likely have been a red card, so maybe that’s where the 2 match ban comes from. Almost inevitable that Albinson will drop a clanger tomorrow. How many Ayr games have you been at with the same atmosphere and where the opposition fans have thrown objects onto the pitch? I can't remember many but I am (slightly!) younger than you. Old Firm players will get coached on how to deal with this but not ours! Anyway, if he'd known he'd get a two game ban he should have used it first then thrown it back! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuffster Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 46 minutes ago, HMIP said: I’ve been going to games for 40 years, and can’t honestly remember a player throwing something into the crowd Ross Docherty threw a shoe into the crowd I think... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, rgreig said: How many Ayr games have you been at with the same atmosphere and where the opposition fans have thrown objects onto the pitch? I can't remember many but I am (slightly!) younger than you. Old Firm players will get coached on how to deal with this but not ours! Anyway, if he'd known he'd get a two game ban he should have used it first then thrown it back! I thought it was one of the lowest key Ayrshire Derbies I’ve ever been at. The Ayr fans showed up expecting nothing and that’s precisely what we got. The idea that old firm players practice having stuff thrown at them so they don’t react is quite amusing all the same. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HMIP Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, wuffster said: Ross Docherty threw a shoe into the crowd I think... Are you sure he wasn’t having a shot at goal? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 31 minutes ago, Sortmeout said: Ha ha good one. It's as stinking as your tiresome patter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 35 minutes ago, wuffster said: Ross Docherty threw a shoe into the crowd I think... I remember that. Peterhead, some trip. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sortmeout Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, Trogdor said: It's as stinking as your tiresome patter. You said it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkeye the Gnu Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I didn't see the incident, but unless the player threw it with some force back into the crowd I really don't see the problem. Totally different with Griffiths and a flare, but a loo roll? Geez a brekk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Terrace Gazza Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 After hearing Killie fans booing Broadfoot which ex Ayr player would you not boo. I do personally remember giving Moffat abuse whilst playing for Dunfermline but that was more down to being hurt than anything else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1nickydevlin Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, North Terrace Gazza said: After hearing Killie fans booing Broadfoot which ex Ayr player would you not boo. I do personally remember giving Moffat abuse whilst playing for Dunfermline but that was more down to being hurt than anything else. I wouldn't boo any ex player .it just fires them up and 9 times out of 10 they score. Gary harkins thrived off it . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diegomarahenry Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Hawkeye the Gnu said: Totally different with Griffiths and a flare, but a loo roll? Geez a brekk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s exactly why he’s been banned, like Moffat being banned for gambling, Ian Black got off lightly and Moffat got hammered. It comes down to the public clamour for action, they can’t punish high profile or old firm players because of the backlash so a player from a smaller team will get the brunt to prove they aren’t a soft touch. I think Moffat got a longer ban but didn’t bet against his own team where Ian Black did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 10 minutes ago, 1nickydevlin said: wouldn't boo any ex player .it just fires them up and 9 times out of 10 they score. Gary harkins thrived off it . Gary Harkins scoring Thrived maybe, played better? Nope 2 minutes ago, diegomarahenry said: That’s exactly why he’s been banned, like Moffat being banned for gambling, Ian Black got off lightly and Moffat got hammered. It comes down to the public clamour for action, they can’t punish high profile or old firm players because of the backlash so a player from a smaller team will get the brunt to prove they aren’t a soft touch. I think Moffat got a longer ban but didn’t bet against his own team where Ian Black did See, I don't see anything against a player betting on football games as long as it's not on games they are playing in. Rules are Rules I guess. I suspect Moffat popped regularly and routinely into the bookies before someone saw him and he got caught out and banned. Ian Black is an arrogant c**t and deserved more than what he got, Moff was probably just doing what he normally done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roxanne's man Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Mcornholio! He needs TP for his Bunghole! Edited December 3, 2021 by Roxanne's man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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