Plumpy Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 19 hours ago, RH33 said: Poverty is a disease and we've seen the number of children living in poverty increase which will have a knock on effect into adulthood. We need to treat drug addiction as a health issue not a crime issue. The "war on drugs" isn't getting very far but it would be political suicide to push forward legalisation. We're still very much a small c, conservative country both at Scottish and UK level. Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. -17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 minutes ago, Plumpy said: Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. ^^^ Not taking the divorce well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 21 Author Share Posted August 21 I had an operation at the start of this year, very simple to fix a hernia. I was given dihyrdocodeine afterwards for the pain and the day after the operation I was at home on it and the day just seemed to disappear. I wasn't asleep or unconcious, the day just melted away. It was a strange feeling, I'm quite a busy person usually working or doing some other activity. If I was someone with a particularly miserable life then I could really see the attraction of doing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: I had an operation at the start of this year, very simple to fix a hernia. I was given dihyrdocodeine afterwards for the pain and the day after the operation I was at home on it and the day just seemed to disappear. I wasn't asleep or unconcious, the day just melted away. It was a strange feeling, I'm quite a busy person usually working or doing some other activity. If I was someone with a particularly miserable life then I could really see the attraction of doing it. This exactly, had it following 3 separate operations and it is was extremely noticeable to me I had to stop taking it as soon as was physically possible pain wise as there was a very definite "dreamy" feeling where I barely noticed what was going on around me. Thing was I was prescribed loads of it so it's not hard to see how stuff like that gets into the wrong circulation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Plumpy said: Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. Damn. Who pished in your cereal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, Plumpy said: Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I had an operation at the start of this year, very simple to fix a hernia. I was given dihyrdocodeine afterwards for the pain and the day after the operation I was at home on it and the day just seemed to disappear. I wasn't asleep or unconcious, the day just melted away. It was a strange feeling, I'm quite a busy person usually working or doing some other activity. If I was someone with a particularly miserable life then I could really see the attraction of doing it. When I was pregnant with youngest child I was on codeine and dihydrocodeine for pain. It didn't touch the sides. After child was born (who some how didn't end up a druggy!) I went onto 40mg steroids and morphine. Offt. Never have I been so awake in my life. No sleep, night sweats and spending money on crap were the symptoms. Brutal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/21/cocaine-britain-gen-x-millennials-drug-vogue Spotted this in today's paper. I don't use drugs so not able to offer an opinion but a question for the younger posters on here. Is coke going out of fashion ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, Plumpy said: Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. Trying too hard. A child shouldn't be punished for their parents. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 3 hours ago, Plumpy said: Awe the poor souls, we need to give them decent cheep drugs when they want them. We also need to take care of the children that they brought into this world, give them lots of free stuff, that should help them out considerably. The police should be encouraged to provide them and their dealers a safe space and a complete immunity from the law. There isn't and has never been a 'War' on drugs, there has been several attempts by soft handed liberals making sure that everyone is a victim. A 'War' would be to take the same standard as with the recent rioters, get them flung into jail ASAP for long sentences and see if it becomes as much as a detterent as the riot trials have. Of course there's been a war on drugs. Misuse of drugs act 1971 was created for such a purpose and is constantly updated for the newer drugs that come on the scene. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Plumpy was clearly given a bag of talcum powder one night and is still raging about it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 2 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/21/cocaine-britain-gen-x-millennials-drug-vogue Spotted this in today's paper. I don't use drugs so not able to offer an opinion but a question for the younger posters on here. Is coke going out of fashion ? Millenial here. I'm not sure about going out of fashion, more that folk are too f**king skint to fund a habit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 8 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: I'll bite, Minimum pricing along with other measures was never meant to stop the hardcore Pardon? This was exactly the reason given for the introduction on MUP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted August 21 Share Posted August 21 Strictly revealing the celebs this year. European club football qualifiers. Scotland tops the drug death league table. Starting to feel like autumn again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 23 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/21/cocaine-britain-gen-x-millennials-drug-vogue Spotted this in today's paper. I don't use drugs so not able to offer an opinion but a question for the younger posters on here. Is coke going out of fashion ? Apparently not https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c8dpeyged1qo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 23 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/21/cocaine-britain-gen-x-millennials-drug-vogue Spotted this in today's paper. I don't use drugs so not able to offer an opinion but a question for the younger posters on here. Is coke going out of fashion ? Not sure coke is out of fashion. However, the big thing nowadays is synthetic drugs - so-called "legal highs" - that are inexpensive and can dodge legislation by having their chemical formula tweaked so that they're technically not the same substance anymore. These do horrendous damage to people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 2 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: Not sure coke is out of fashion. However, the big thing nowadays is synthetic drugs - so-called "legal highs" - that are inexpensive and can dodge legislation by having their chemical formula tweaked so that they're technically not the same substance anymore. These do horrendous damage to people. A few years ago there used to be regular videos and reports of people stumbling around city centres like zombies due to Spice - Manchester was particularly notorious for this. However, it all seems to have quietened down on this front, unsure what happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Richey Edwards said: Not sure coke is out of fashion. However, the big thing nowadays is synthetic drugs - so-called "legal highs" - that are inexpensive and can dodge legislation by having their chemical formula tweaked so that they're technically not the same substance anymore. These do horrendous damage to people. Psychoactive substances act seemed to have got ahead of this to some extent. Wonder where ketamine fits in the picture of the nations drug use, seems to be talked about much more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 2 hours ago, Richey Edwards said: Not sure coke is out of fashion. However, the big thing nowadays is synthetic drugs - so-called "legal highs" - that are inexpensive and can dodge legislation by having their chemical formula tweaked so that they're technically not the same substance anymore. These do horrendous damage to people. Cake is a made-up drug. It's not made from plants, it's made from chemicals...by...sick b*****ds. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted August 22 Share Posted August 22 On 21/08/2024 at 13:20, ICTChris said: I had an operation at the start of this year, very simple to fix a hernia. I was given dihyrdocodeine afterwards for the pain and the day after the operation I was at home on it and the day just seemed to disappear. I wasn't asleep or unconcious, the day just melted away. It was a strange feeling, I'm quite a busy person usually working or doing some other activity. If I was someone with a particularly miserable life then I could really see the attraction of doing it. Morrisey alluded to this very point in his 1989 single “Interesting Drug”. Interesting drug, the one that you took Tell the truth, it really helped you An interesting drug, the one that you took God, it really, really helped you You wonder why we're only half-ashamed? Because enough is too much And look around, can you blame us? Can you blame us? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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