Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, cb_diamond said: Yeah, showing that by calling it a joke (of any variety you like) it's not exactly giving the facts. Whether it's a "joke", "a stupid joke" or any other type, starting the retelling with absolutely the wrong direction. None of this was any type of joke. I was at Gretna that day i believe the account given above was exactly the facts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The clean living guy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, cb_diamond said: Is this an attempt at a joke or a stupid joke? Just so we're clear? It's a question. Hence the question mark. Were you at Gretna that day? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, cb_diamond said: Is this an attempt at a joke or a stupid joke? Just so we're clear? Now you're being deliberately obtuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Just now, The clean living guy said: It's a question. Hence the question mark. Were you at Gretna that day? Nope, I wasn't. Also I didn't need to be to know how genuinely bad this episode was and the retelling here makes it sound like it wasn't really that bad. People who were associating with the club by openly being fans, dressed up like the KKK in the middle of a town and then went to the match still in these costumes. There is no joke, no stupid joke, no humour, nothing but offensive, bigoted behaviour that did real, long lasting damage to the reputation of the club and the fanbase. It's genuinely blowing my mind here that I am having to justify this view to not one, but two grown, adult people and I am the only one apparently in the last two pages who is seeing this. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, cb_diamond said: Nope, I wasn't. Also I didn't need to be to know how genuinely bad this episode was and the retelling here makes it sound like it wasn't really that bad. People who were associating with the club by openly being fans, dressed up like the KKK in the middle of a town and then went to the match still in these costumes. There is no joke, no stupid joke, no humour, nothing but offensive, bigoted behaviour that did real, long lasting damage to the reputation of the club and the fanbase. It's genuinely blowing my mind here that I am having to justify this view to not one, but two grown, adult people and I am the only one apparently in the last two pages who is seeing this. As i've said, i believe your struggling with the context. The word "stupid" could easily be substituted for regrettable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond8 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Diamonds_Are_Forever said: Feel like another centre half is needed quickly watson had an absolute stinker yesterday imo That's 2 weeks in a row he's looked far from convincing. I like him though and think he has a place in our squad but we will not be challenging this season with him at centre half 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Kenny_m said: As i've said, i believe your struggling with the context. The word "stupid" could easily be substituted for regrettable. So a regrettable joke? Again. I don't think I'm struggling with any context, mainly based off the fact that both the OP and yourself think this was any variety of joke. Do you know what, here's an easy solution if you think I'm struggling with context. Why don't you tell me exactly which part of this was a "joke" of any variety? Go on, help me out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 37 minutes ago, Mr November said: Yeah I agree, one player who can cover both would be ideal but if we only bring in another two then those positions would be my priority. I think a centre back is more important as Scott McGill showed in the first half of last season that a good team can get away with someone filling in there, whereas I’d worry if Fordyce was out for more than a game or two. Ideally we’ll get both in though with perhaps another midfielder too. I suppose it’s worth noting that we have until the end of September for loans, though obviously we will need more options sooner than that. Kerr McInroy only signed on 30th September last season, so it is possible for guys to come in and have a real impact but the chances of anyone as good as him signing seem slim. I think we only have two loan spots left, possibly one if Murray Johnson’s loan is extended beyond the current emergency one, so it’s important we get these last signings right. I think Deveney has been fine so far and would assume given his age he should improve a bit too. If he was to get injured I'd rather cross that bridge when we come to it than use up limited resources on a substitute left back when there are other areas we need to strengthen like centre back. I feel like some fans have pre judged Deveney because on paper he didn't seem a particularly inspiring sounding signing, certainly compared to our other full back, but I don't think he's done much wrong. As you say the keeper situation may mean we have to use another loan up for that, so it's going to have to be actual signings mostly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, cb_diamond said: So a regrettable joke? Again. I don't think I'm struggling with any context, mainly based off the fact that both the OP and yourself think this was any variety of joke. Do you know what, here's an easy solution if you think I'm struggling with context. Why don't you tell me exactly which part of this was a "joke" of any variety? Go on, help me out. I've tried you're too stupid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Kenny_m said: I've tried you're too stupid. Well just point me to the post where you've shown me the humour in racism and I'll re-read it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, cb_diamond said: Well just point me to the post where you've shown me the humour in racism and I'll re-read it... Go and lie down in darkened room, i've not once mentioned there is "humour in racism". END -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Kenny_m said: Go and lie down in darkened room, i've not once mentioned there is "humour in racism". END No? But jokes are funny? you've tried to defend a post multiple times that can't really be defended, you've twisted and turned your argument at least twice now, you've also resorted to name calling when called out on your non arguement. FIN ETA- first line Edited August 14, 2022 by cb_diamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny_m Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said: I think Deveney has been fine so far and would assume given his age he should improve a bit too. If he was to get injured I'd rather cross that bridge when we come to it than use up limited resources on a substitute left back when there are other areas we need to strengthen like centre back. I feel like some fans have pre judged Deveney because on paper he didn't seem a particularly inspiring sounding signing, certainly compared to our other full back, but I don't think he's done much wrong. As you say the keeper situation may mean we have to use another loan up for that, so it's going to have to be actual signings mostly. Murray Johnson initially was a 7 day emegency loan which has obviously been extended but for how long? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds are Forever Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Kenny_m said: Murray Johnson initially was a 7 day emegency loan which has obviously been extended but for how long? I always thought Emergency Loans had to be for a minimum of 28 days, and they could go up to 3 months. I know the club initially said 7 days but that seems weird to me unless the rules have changed. The fact he's continued to play for 3 weeks suggests it was for at least 28 days. Hopefully someone else knows more about this than me and can confirm the normal length. Depending how long Rae is out for it may have to turn from an Emergency Loan to a standard one if both clubs wanted/allow. Edited August 14, 2022 by Diamonds are Forever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The clean living guy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 38 minutes ago, cb_diamond said: Nope, I wasn't. Also I didn't need to be to know how genuinely bad this episode was and the retelling here makes it sound like it wasn't really that bad. People who were associating with the club by openly being fans, dressed up like the KKK in the middle of a town and then went to the match still in these costumes. There is no joke, no stupid joke, no humour, nothing but offensive, bigoted behaviour that did real, long lasting damage to the reputation of the club and the fanbase. It's genuinely blowing my mind here that I am having to justify this view to not one, but two grown, adult people and I am the only one apparently in the last two pages who is seeing this. I know you want something to be super offended at but no one has justified it and all would agree it was horrendous. For the sake of your blood pressure try to move on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, The clean living guy said: I know you want something to be super offended at but no one has justified it and all would agree it was horrendous. I suspect that not everyone on these pages would. Sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The clean living guy Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 minute ago, cb_diamond said: I suspect that not everyone on these pages would. Sadly. Honestly, give it up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, The clean living guy said: Honestly, give it up. Last post, as I'm as done with this as you are. The only thing I'm actually "super offended" (to use your terminology) about, is that yourself and Kenny are somehow acting like I'm being some hysterical riot here by calling ALL of this bullshit out. I get you've made the point you were offended by it at the time. But your subsequent "were you even at Gretna" sentiment suggests that that would somehow have made any difference. It wouldn't. Opposition fans have been asking for years why Airdrie fans don't call out the crap behaviour of other Airdrie fans. This is why. Edited August 14, 2022 by cb_diamond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Saneposter Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, cb_diamond said: Last post, as I'm as done with this as you are. The only thing I'm actually "super offended" (to use your terminology) about, is that yourself and Kenny are somehow acting like I'm being some hysterical riot here by calling ALL of this bullshit out. I get you've made the point you were offended by it at the time. But your subsequent "were you even at Gretna" sentiment suggests that that would somehow have made any difference. It wouldn't. Opposition fans have been asking for years why Airdrie fans don't call out the crap behaviour of other Airdrie fans. This is why. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cb_diamond Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saneposter said: What on earth am I looking at? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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