No_Problemo Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, 2426255 said: What if he doesn't continue to develop and this is it? Also I think Moonster said you're not to quote me. He will still be a very good player. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Gilmour starts for Norwich, let's see what he's capable of in a Norwich shirt! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stellaboz Posted December 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2021 19 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Gilmour starts for Norwich, let's see what he's capable of in a Norwich shirt! Admittedly I'm drunk so I'm going to pick my words carefully here. f**k off you fucking nonce. 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Stellaboz said: Admittedly I'm drunk so I'm going to pick my words carefully here. f**k off you fucking nonce. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I didn't think he had that great a game if I'm honest. Norwich played well as a team and he played his part in that, but I wouldn't say he stood out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jambomo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, 2426255 said: I didn't think he had that great a game if I'm honest. Norwich played well as a team and he played his part in that, but I wouldn't say he stood out. You never do, it’s what make your opinion not worth listening to. Edited December 12, 2021 by Jambomo 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 55 minutes ago, Jambomo said: You never do, it’s what make your opinion not worth listening to. Yes, I am on the wind up - but the truth is that it's not been difficult because he hasn't really stood out since Dean Smith came in, certainly not anymore than say Kenny McLean for example. In my view was okay against Southampton, played quite well against Wolves, disappointing against Newcastle, disappointing against Tottenham and did okay against Man Utd. I don't think that's far from the truth. It's not like I'm saying he was awful when he played well and the fact that no-one has come on to say he was the main man or that he ran the show suggests to me that I'm not far off. Roll on Norwich v Villa and West Ham v Norwich. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 IMO, he was a bit off it in the first half and very good in the second. McTominay and McLean both played well too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 I thought he improved as the game went on yesterday. He struggled in the first half, some uncharacteristically poor passes, but did settle down and began to influence things more in the second half. Most of the times I have seen him for Norwich, he has been pretty impressive with the ball but struggled out of possession. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: IMO, he was a bit off it in the first half and very good in the second. McTominay and McLean both played well too. This was my view as well. Not great first half but a lot better second. I think when Norwich sit back he isn’t as good but when they are attacking, he looks much better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Deans Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Billy Gilmour needs to get a better team than Norwich. Great distribution means nothing if you're forwards can't score. They're a gang and big Grant looked knackered holding that defence together. Been doing it for months. Kenny McLean is a better player than Norwich tbf. See the nick of that guy Sargent up top for Norwich. Wouldn't get a game for my pub and were all over 60 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameron2000 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 It’s naive to say Norwich are a gang etc. they’ve started the season way worse than they should of but the entire squad is littered with technically gifted players minus Sargent (he’s absolutely woeful). They may be lacking in physicality in general and Gilmour is no exception. He will be more successful when Normann returns from injury - I think they can compliment each other well and allow him to play higher up.The criticism he’s getting from Norwich fans is very unfair to be honest but they all wanted him to be a direct replacement for Oliver Skipp (an out and out ball winning midfielder). Not gonna get into a debate if he’s as good as Skipp but they are certainly so different in every aspect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 A lot of Norwich fans on Twitter seem to really dislike him. It's so weird, although it's probably annoying having Chelsea fans constantly all over their posts. I thought he had a so-so first half but the second was his best for Norwich imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, accies1874 said: although it's probably annoying having Chelsea fans constantly all over their posts. Chelsea and Scotland fans. If you put yourself in the Norwich fans shoes it's no doubt not too hard to see why they get frustrated with Scotland and Chelsea Gilmourites. Edited December 13, 2021 by 2426255 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambomo Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 45 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Chelsea and Scotland fans. If you put yourself in the Norwich fans shoes it's no doubt not too hard to see why they get frustrated with Scotland and Chelsea Gilmourites. To be fair I agree with you, I can see why they are a bit frustrated as he hasn’t set the world alight there and are constantly being told he’s brilliant, when he hasn’t really been, he’s been more reasonably good. That said some of them are just weird about it. Logic and common sense should tell them that a 20 year old kid, who has had a handful of starts for Chelsea and Scotland, might take time to settle in and get up to speed. I’ve heard even their local media guys trot out the “we lost the 4 games he started” when people were asking why he wasn’t playing, as though it was entirely his fault and they were winning loads once Farke dropped him. They seem to ignore that Smith has so far started him in every game and whilst they might not think he is great, Smith clearly sees enough to be happy. They just seem mad that he isn’t living up to the hype to the point of being completely irrational about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 22 hours ago, 2426255 said: Yes, I am on the wind up - but the truth is that it's not been difficult because he hasn't really stood out since Dean Smith came in, certainly not anymore than say Kenny McLean for example. In my view was okay against Southampton, played quite well against Wolves, disappointing against Newcastle, disappointing against Tottenham and did okay against Man Utd. I don't think that's far from the truth. It's not like I'm saying he was awful when he played well and the fact that no-one has come on to say he was the main man or that he ran the show suggests to me that I'm not far off. Roll on Norwich v Villa and West Ham v Norwich. You're a fucking gimp. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, The Moonster said: You're a fucking gimp. what happened to this wee suggestion of yours? On 01/12/2021 at 14:31, The Moonster said: Can we stop quoting the wee geek please? Makes it difficult to ignore his weird vandetta against oor Billy. Edited December 13, 2021 by 2426255 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) Thought I'd do some comparison with the best midfielders in the world and Gilmour. Halfway through his first season as a 20 year old he has made 20 league appearances (all in the English top flight) and has 10 international appearances. I'm comparing his stats to end of season stats for other players so call it more like 35 league appearances and 12 internationals if he stays fit for arguments sake. At the same Thiago Alcantara had 14 top flight games in Spain and 3 caps De Bruyne had 70 top flight games in Belgium and 2 caps Fabinho had 1 top flight game in Spain and no caps Bruno Fernandes had 25 top flight games in Italy and no caps Leon Goretzka had 35 top flight games in Germany and 1 cap Kai Havertz had 88 top flight games in Germany and 7 caps Jordan Henderson had 44 top flight games and 1 cap Joshua Kimmich had no top flight games or caps N'Golo Kante had no top flight games or caps Tony Kroos had 63 top flight games in Germany and 13 caps With the exception of Kroos he's ahead, or equal, to any other player on there. If Gilmour was at Genk he'd have 70 games under his belt as well (and more than three caps as Belgium were honking at the time). He's possibly comparable to Thiago Alcantara in that he's came through at the European Champions, at a time they are stacked with world class midfielders, and still forced his way into contention. Edited December 14, 2021 by AsimButtHitsASix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Indeed, and he fares even better when compared to the others cycled through Chelseas loan system. Chelsea fast tracked him to the first team before loaning him out, they didn't for Mount, Gallagher, Reece James, Chalobah or Courtouis. Gilmour made more first team appearances than Lukaku did during his first spell (going by wikipedia). They only loaned him out reluctantly with Tuchel publicly saying it was Gilmours decision. The Norwich fans criticising him no doubt thought that Kane was a complete carthorse too when they loaned him too. And they're probably trying to be edgy like some of those on this thread. He's certainly a completely different player to Skipp, but the evidence would suggest he is better (Chelsea easily found a top tier team to take Gilmour, Skipp went to the Championship on loan). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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