Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: If the European dosh was spread equally with Celtic making the champions league there would be more diddies supporting Celtic in Europe. And doing so would be less insane than is currently the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, Monkey Tennis said: And doing so would be less insane than is currently the case. Celtic would just put £100 on their season tickets, all you would be doing is creating what's happening down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Celtic would just put £100 on their season tickets, all you would be doing is creating what's happening down south. Explain what you mean here. How would it possibly recreate the situation down south? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 2 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Explain what you mean here. How would it possibly recreate the situation down south? Say Celtic get £36 million from the champions league divided equally to the top tier clubs in Scotland is £3 million each. The league the doomhamers are in would get left behind the gap would be the grand canyon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 For God's sake Willy. Academies cost money. Scouting networks cost money. Promising kids are attracted to sides with greater resources. Celtic usually win because they can afford to. Your failure to recognise that very simple fact is laughable.Much as i hate it you have proved willy's point here in this regard. The more talented kids will gravitate to the biggest club as they & their parents will look on it uncritically and see the pathway to fame & riches, the reality is somewhat different however & these kids lose out on that critical formative period which means they will never become the players they could have been. That is not Celtic or Rangers fault as they are only looking after their own interests & rightly do. The fault is more down to the parents not doing what is right for their childs sporting development which loops back into a different argument altogether & which is why Scotland will always fail in footballing terms. Look at VVD's pathway for an example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Moomintroll said: 19 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: For God's sake Willy. Academies cost money. Scouting networks cost money. Promising kids are attracted to sides with greater resources. Celtic usually win because they can afford to. Your failure to recognise that very simple fact is laughable. Much as i hate it you have proved willy's point here in this regard. The more talented kids will gravitate to the biggest club as they & their parents will look on it uncritically and see the pathway to fame & riches, the reality is somewhat different however & these kids lose out on that critical formative period which means they will never become the players they could have been. That is not Celtic or Rangers fault as they are only looking after their own interests & rightly do. The fault is more down to the parents not doing what is right for their childs sporting development which loops back into a different argument altogether & which is why Scotland will always fail in footballing terms. Look at VVD's pathway for an example. Whit? How on earth does any of that "prove Willy's point" that football success is barely related to financial muscle? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Say Celtic get £36 million from the champions league divided equally to the top tier clubs in Scotland is £3 million each. The league the doomhamers are in would get left behind the gap would be the grand canyon. Before, you said "spread equally". Now you've confined it just to the top tier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Whit? How on earth does any of that "prove Willy's point" that football success is barely related to financial muscle? Celtic get beaten with a stick every time we take young talent from other clubs in Scotland if Celtic produce our own there is no need to weaken the opposition. Edited August 5, 2019 by wastecoatwilly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Celtic get beating with a stick every time we take young talent from other clubs in Scotland if Celtic produce our own there is no need to weaken the opposition. What's that got to do with anything? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 4 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Before, you said "spread equally". Now you've confined it just to the top tier. Fecking hell monkey I was going with the solidarity payment. If you dilute it any more what difference would it make? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Just now, wastecoatwilly said: Fecking hell monkey I was going with the solidarity payment. If you dilute it any more what difference would it make? Celtic would have less. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: Celtic would have less. No we wouldn't Celtic would raise the season tickets plus we would still be winning trophies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 19 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: What's that got to do with anything? I'm sorry I forgot you know nothing about the game it's only the dosh you are interested in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said: No we wouldn't Celtic would raise the season tickets plus we would still be winning trophies. So when Celtic miss out on CL money, they simply make it up by cranking up the price of STs? Yeah ok Willy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, wastecoatwilly said: I'm sorry I forgot you know nothing about the game it's only the dosh you are interested in. I would humbly suggest that in recognising the relationship between "dosh" and performance, I might know a little more than you appear to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 12 minutes ago, Monkey Tennis said: So when Celtic miss out on CL money, they simply make it up by cranking up the price of STs? Yeah ok Willy. Celtic would get the same share as every other Scots clubs. The cranking up would only come if needed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenlantern Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Willy just concede that we’d all like a ‘levelled-up’ competition in Scottish football. But acknowledge that Monkey is championing this noble movement by cheering on foreign clubs in Europe. That way he can inflict his boring pishy analogies on someone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Greenlantern said: Willy just concede that we’d all like a ‘levelled-up’ competition in Scottish football. But acknowledge that Monkey is championing this noble movement by cheering on foreign clubs in Europe. That way he can inflict his boring pishy analogies on someone else. No analogies really. Just questions about how people reconcile having wildly opposing views about how resources should be allocated in the wider world, and with regard to football. It seems that for some Celtic fans, there's a self serving contradiction. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Whit? How on earth does any of that "prove Willy's point" that football success is barely related to financial muscle?Where he was talking about them bringing Academy players through, the rest of his argument around money being unimportant is utter gibberish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestsinceslicebread Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Good luck to the 3 Scottish clubs on European duty this week. Here's hoping for 3 away wins to start off 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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