The Moonster Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, BingMcCrosby said: I'm not on twitter so I don't know what's being said but I've not seen anyone "losing their shit" on here. The player and manager had a discussion about it, then the player spoke to the squad about it. Then the press were informed of this. If nobody was bothered or interested within the squad then none of that would have happened. You can not agree if you want, but it would be silly. Sigh. If we're just going to repeat things then we're as well ending this here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: Sigh. If we're just going to repeat things then we're as well ending this here. That would have been a good idea for you 4 posts ago. I've seen this alot now accusations of people "losing their shit" "wanting him strung up". Where as people wanted a clear issue dealt with, which it was. Thankfully the manager isn't a lilly livered softy like the posters on here wanting to pretend nothing had even happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 I'd imagine playing for Scotland is shite when you have to be near the Tartan Army tbh. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 The minute he scores against Russia and kisses the badge he'll be adored by TA fans up and down the country. Fickle bunch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 7 hours ago, The Moonster said: I can't agree. The manager and his team mates have met the whole thing with an Alan Partridge shrug of the shoulders and Scotland fans are losing their shit. I don't think I'm exaggerating there. Well maybe that says more about them than anything else. Ultimately the fans are the ones paying these peoples wages and treating their fans / employers with complete and utter contempt is just not acceptable. They may not see it all as an "honour" to represent your country and they may not all be wiling to "walk over broken glass" etc (choose your own cliche), however the very least we should expect is for them to show some respect to their supporters and try their best if and when selected....................... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Well maybe that says more about them than anything else. Ultimately the fans are the ones paying these peoples wages and treating their fans / employers with complete and utter contempt is just not acceptable. They may not see it all as an "honour" to represent your country and they may not all be wiling to "walk over broken glass" etc (choose your own cliche), however the very least we should expect is for them to show some respect to their supporters and try their best if and when selected....................... Go on then, who in this squad hasn't tried their best when selected? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Go on then, who in this squad hasn't tried their best when selected? For me you can only judge a player when he plays for Scotland. The player gets picked for Scotland because of his individual ability you can't expect him to play the way he does for his club. Different managers will want different things from their players. Edited September 4, 2019 by wastecoatwilly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, The Moonster said: Go on then, who in this squad hasn't tried their best when selected? I didn't say anyone didn't try their best, what I said was that the least we should expect as supporters is that they show respect and always try their best. If anyone falls short of these standards then they should be punted. I get that McBurnie has probably just seen this as a little joke sort of thing and some people are also seeing it as a storm in a teacup, however in this era of social media and celebrities (however minor they may be) constantly in the spotlight, then they need to be far more responsible and think about what they're doing as we all know that people seem to be over sensitive about almost everything and "taking offence" is now the latest "must have" for almost everyone, (along with being outraged of course)............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 8 hours ago, WATTOO said: I didn't say anyone didn't try their best, what I said was that the least we should expect as supporters is that they show respect and always try their best. If anyone falls short of these standards then they should be punted. I get that McBurnie has probably just seen this as a little joke sort of thing and some people are also seeing it as a storm in a teacup, however in this era of social media and celebrities (however minor they may be) constantly in the spotlight, then they need to be far more responsible and think about what they're doing as we all know that people seem to be over sensitive about almost everything and "taking offence" is now the latest "must have" for almost everyone, (along with being outraged of course)............. Christ almighty. Club football cannot return quickly enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Well maybe that says more about them than anything else. Ultimately the fans are the ones paying these peoples wages and treating their fans / employers with complete and utter contempt is just not acceptable. They may not see it all as an "honour" to represent your country and they may not all be wiling to "walk over broken glass" etc (choose your own cliche), however the very least we should expect is for them to show some respect to their supporters and try their best if and when selected.......................The fans don’t come remotely close to paying the player’s wages. Fans pay their money for their tickets in return for, supposedly, entertainment. That’s it. That’s all the fans are entitled to. If the players serve up substandard crap, then the fans are quite entitled to moan. But beyond that, that some players - Steven Naismith being one of the more obvious examples - use their elevated income to contribute to wider elements of society and are quite good at interacting with fans is great, but fans have no right to expect it.Honestly, the sense of entitlement is far worse than the sense of “mock-offence”. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Christ almighty. Club football cannot return quickly enough.If you don't care about the Scotland team (and bitch about Scotland supporters) then f**k off out the thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: The fans don’t come remotely close to paying the player’s wages. The players are paid to represent the country, where do you think the money comes from to do this if not from the fans? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Savage Henry said: The fans don’t come remotely close to paying the player’s wages. Fans pay their money for their tickets in return for, supposedly, entertainment. That’s it. That’s all the fans are entitled to. If the players serve up substandard crap, then the fans are quite entitled to moan. But beyond that, that some players - Steven Naismith being one of the more obvious examples - use their elevated income to contribute to wider elements of society and are quite good at interacting with fans is great, but fans have no right to expect it. Honestly, the sense of entitlement is far worse than the sense of “mock-offence”. I think someone missed their Economics class at school.............. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameus Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, WATTOO said: I think someone missed their Economics class at school.............. At least you didn't miss tearful cliches class with the previous past. The "but we pay their wages" stuff is an A+ by the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, forameus said: At least you didn't miss tearful cliches class with the previous past. The "but we pay their wages" stuff is an A+ by the way. I did point out in my post that they were cliches but it's always good to sensationalise and just for a few minutes pretend that you can aspire to the heights of a tabloid journalist. I'll need to work on my "erupted in fury", "insisted", "was outraged" etc . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snobot Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 50 minutes ago, WATTOO said: "I did point out in my post that they were cliches but it's always good to sensationalise and just for a few minutes pretend that you can aspire to the heights of a tabloid journalist. I'll need to work on my "erupted in fury", "insisted", "was outraged" etc ." blasted the Ayr-United-Supporting ace in a sensational outburst that will rock Scottish Football. FTFY 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 FTFYSensational broadside, surely? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 21 minutes ago, ali_91 said: Re the McBurnie story, a handful of people will genuinely be angry, but I don’t see any of that on here, and the people over reacting are the ones eager to defend him at all costs. Example conversation: Poster A: That was a silly thing to say by McBurnie, a little unprofessional. Poster B: This is the problem with football fans in this country, they try and ruin young players, what a sense of entitlement you have, and what an overreaction. Poster A: ... Pish, there were at least 3 posts on here immediately saying he should never play for us again. We all want to forget about this shite and move on but you and auld Bing keep stoking the fire. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, Savage Henry said: Sensational broadside, surely? It was very good and made me laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted September 6, 2019 Share Posted September 6, 2019 26 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Pish, there were at least 3 posts on here immediately saying he should never play for us again. We all want to forget about this shite and move on but you and auld Bing keep stoking the fire. Im not sure if that guys even posted on the thread before. But very unfair to compare him to a fire stoker like myself. Anyway see "auld" Henry's managed to forget the question he couldnt answer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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