Sir Tarmo Kink Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, cowden boy said: Can’t find any evidence on this thread that supports your statement idiot be glad to see the back of them far too strong for league 2 Cowden staying down, Cove going up... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilianlex Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Sir Tarmo Kink said: Cowden staying down, Cove going up... They are the richest team in the league and considerably more so than admin bound ict. Say hello when they pass you by 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Minertaur Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Sir Tarmo Kink said: Cowden fans absolutely sick at the thought of their fabricated ‘rivals’ Cove strolling to the title 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Kink Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Brazilianlex said: They are the richest team in the league and considerably more so than admin bound ict. Say hello when they pass you by Keep believing fake newspaper articles then, as your diddy outfit languishes in League 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenkay Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 06/01/2020 at 15:59, Bring Your Own Socks said: 1. Cove Rangers Then..... 2. AN Other 3. AN Other 4 AN Other 5. AN Other 6. AN Other 7. AN Other 8. AN Other 9. AN Other 10. AN Other In light of recent chequebook openings in Aberdeen, you'd have been as well with this..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weetoonlad Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 In light of recent chequebook openings in Aberdeen, you'd have been as well with this.....Cove have just bought the title 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampden Diehard Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Cove have just bought the title Tends to be the way of things almost every year; teams with money near the top and the skint ones near the bottom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 Tends to be the way of things almost every year; teams with money near the top and the skint ones near the bottom.Very much so and at every level.Lot of concern/alarm/ paranoia about the charge of LL & HL clubs attacking L2 but there’s a trend showing in both. There are teams with aggressive plans but already it’s narrowing. In the LL for example, teams like Kirby, Spartans and BSC all looked strong for a play-off spot in the last few years but the two newcomers this year have already relegated the rest of the table to also-rans. Bo’ness look likely to be in the LL next year so it’ll be interesting to see if they match Kelty’s spending and results. Or will this year’s incomers prove to be a phenomenon. And whichever of Kelty or Bonnyrigg don’t get a play-off, will they be able to sustain another year at current levels?In the HL, it’s really only Brora as their candidate. With no tier 6/7 leagues and less of a regional player pool there’s less likelihood of that league having an annual attack at L2. And a growing likelihood that LL teams will be stronger in the play-off between those two leagues.There’s certainly a threat this year that an established League team will drop out of the SPFL but it might be another few years before the next wave of wannabes are strong enough. Meanwhile, L2 clubs have a chance to develop and grow or a chance to wither and wait for the inevitable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 There should, unquestionably, be automatic relegation. Not sure of the liklihood of turkeys voting for Christmas, though. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhliston Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 There should, unquestionably, be automatic relegation. Not sure of the liklihood of turkeys voting for Christmas, though. Reckon automatic relegation will come when the SFA get the junior clubs in the West of Scotland to leave the juniors and form another league with promoted teams getting into the lowland League like the teams from the East do at present. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, rhliston said: Reckon automatic relegation will come when the SFA get the junior clubs in the West of Scotland to leave the juniors and form another league with promoted teams getting into the lowland League like the teams from the East do at present. It isn’t as simple as that. We currently have the Lowland league, East of Scotland Premier then the two conferences. Why would/should we simply allow another tier to enter above that of the existing teams in the two conferences. The West didn’t/don’t want to come so why should they get any favourable action. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhliston Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 It isn’t as simple as that. We currently have the Lowland league, East of Scotland Premier then the two conferences. Why would/should we simply allow another tier to enter above that of the existing teams in the two conferences. The West didn’t/don’t want to come so why should they get any favourable action.Fact is if this West of Scotland league comes into fruition, then they will need to have a structure in place similar to that in the East, a Premier League, and conferences below that. Winners of this Premier West and East Leagues would automatically be promoted to the Lowland League. That would mean 2 down from the Lowland League, which could be increased to say 18 teams in the future to allow this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Muzza81 said: It isn’t as simple as that. We currently have the Lowland league, East of Scotland Premier then the two conferences. Why would/should we simply allow another tier to enter above that of the existing teams in the two conferences. The West didn’t/don’t want to come so why should they get any favourable action. The senior leagues want a WOSFL at tier 6 to feed into the Lowland League. The West Region could, and for simplicity sake, should be that league. However, they seem stuck in the junior mind set. Should have happened this season but was held by the SJFA. Rumour is on the 29th the Lowland/EoS/SoS will support the idea of setting up a tier 6 WOSFL ran by the Lowland until the clubs that fill it can run it themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Very much so and at every level. Lot of concern/alarm/ paranoia about the charge of LL & HL clubs attacking L2 but there’s a trend showing in both. There are teams with aggressive plans but already it’s narrowing. In the LL for example, teams like Kirby, Spartans and BSC all looked strong for a play-off spot in the last few years but the two newcomers this year have already relegated the rest of the table to also-rans. Bo’ness look likely to be in the LL next year so it’ll be interesting to see if they match Kelty’s spending and results. Or will this year’s incomers prove to be a phenomenon. And whichever of Kelty or Bonnyrigg don’t get a play-off, will they be able to sustain another year at current levels? In the HL, it’s really only Brora as their candidate. With no tier 6/7 leagues and less of a regional player pool there’s less likelihood of that league having an annual attack at L2. And a growing likelihood that LL teams will be stronger in the play-off between those two leagues. There’s certainly a threat this year that an established League team will drop out of the SPFL but it might be another few years before the next wave of wannabes are strong enough. Meanwhile, L2 clubs have a chance to develop and grow or a chance to wither and wait for the inevitable. On the subject of the HL things could change within the next season or two. The north juniors previously stated that they weren't interested in the pyramid but they with the HL & things seem to going to be going the right direction from what I've read (albeit somewhat limited information) of what went down at the meeting. The North Caledonian League have also indicated interest in the pyramid & met with the HL but this was a while ago (can't remember exact dates). Edited January 26, 2020 by GNU_Linux 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 (edited) On 26/01/2020 at 13:17, an86 said: There should, unquestionably, be automatic relegation. Not sure of the liklihood of turkeys voting for Christmas, though. On 26/01/2020 at 14:07, Muzza81 said: It isn’t as simple as that. We currently have the Lowland league, East of Scotland Premier then the two conferences. Why would/should we simply allow another tier to enter above that of the existing teams in the two conferences. The West didn’t/don’t want to come so why should they get any favourable action. Issue with a WOSFL feeding into the LL is that you'd have a bottle-neck of decent teams within a so-called lower tier, many of which would wipe the floor with a number of LL sides that would simply be protected by the limited relegation places. In all reality you'd probably end up with another Brora situation whereby they'd rather remain in the lower tier where it suits them better. Having any WOSFL parallel to the HL & LL would avoid this whilst also allowing e.g. East Kilbride / BSC to jump ship without much issue if it became the obvious thing to do. RE relegation from the SPFL, one work around would be similar to the English Premiership whereby a team is automatically relegated and replaced by the winner of a playoff fought between teams from the lower tier. That said, this would require an even number of divisional winners to prevent anybody unfairly getting a playoff round bye, so there could instead be a mini-league comprising three regional/divisional/whatever winners, with the playoff winner replacing the bottom placed SPFL club. There would of course be a clause that Brechin couldn't be relegated unless the challenging team has a higher standard of half-time soup (or acceptable alternative such as the Stephen's steak bridie, which Kelty should have no problem acquiring). Edited January 27, 2020 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highland ITFC Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 26/01/2020 at 13:17, an86 said: There should, unquestionably, be automatic relegation. Not sure of the liklihood of turkeys voting for Christmas, though. Completely agree with this. Remember the old days of 'applying for re-election' by whichever team finished bottom of the old English Fourth Division, & almost without fail the 'old boys club' of club chairmen would re-elect & the same team, which over the course of a season - & sometimes more than one season - had shown themselves to be the poorest in the league & worthy of relegation, but then lived to do the same or close the following season. Then it was finally changed & automatic promotion came in, & if you look now at the English leagues 1 & 2 then there's loads of clubs that have earned their right to come up & be a part of it, & equally the National League & below has loads of teams that have dropped out & not been able to come back. So much more of a healthy situation whereby well-run & ambitious clubs can see a no-argument reward for their efforts, & those that are at the other end of the spectrum are left in no doubt of their potential pathway either! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 31 minutes ago, Highland ITFC said: Completely agree with this. Remember the old days of 'applying for re-election' by whichever team finished bottom of the old English Fourth Division, & almost without fail the 'old boys club' of club chairmen would re-elect & the same team, which over the course of a season - & sometimes more than one season - had shown themselves to be the poorest in the league & worthy of relegation, but then lived to do the same or close the following season. Then it was finally changed & automatic promotion came in, & if you look now at the English leagues 1 & 2 then there's loads of clubs that have earned their right to come up & be a part of it, & equally the National League & below has loads of teams that have dropped out & not been able to come back. So much more of a healthy situation whereby well-run & ambitious clubs can see a no-argument reward for their efforts, & those that are at the other end of the spectrum are left in no doubt of their potential pathway either! Have to fully agree. Terrible idea, Brechin would be f***ed. Have to fully agree. Terrible idea, Brechin would be f***ed. Have to fully agree. Grudgingly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 You can’t be advocating another league to come in at the level of LL and HL just to suit the west? That would require a massive amount of reconstruction. That’s a pretty absurd reconstruction idea tbh. If the West want to join they can join from the bottom. Its all hypothetical though as many of them don’t even want to join the progressive structure and they play at absolute shit holes which would be about as likely to get a safety certificate as Grenfell. Totally agree re automatic relegation. It will come in time though. No doubt about it. It will take many a year for reconstruction to get its best place but it will happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Burton Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It isn’t as simple as that. We currently have the Lowland league, East of Scotland Premier then the two conferences. Why would/should we simply allow another tier to enter above that of the existing teams in the two conferences. The West didn’t/don’t want to come so why should they get any favourable action.The LL And EOS don't have an issue with the West juniors coming in at tier 6, league below LL. You need a license to play in the LL anyway.The juniors want the LL split into two leagues East and West which almost certainly won't happen. Would be a farce to have 3 leagues feeding into league 2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzza81 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jack Burton said: The LL And EOS don't have an issue with the West juniors coming in at tier 6, league below LL. You need a license to play in the LL anyway. The juniors want the LL split into two leagues East and West which almost certainly won't happen. Would be a farce to have 3 leagues feeding into league 2. Is that definitely the case? If I were an EoS conference club I wouldn’t be happy at a load of teams jumping a level whenever they eventually move over (2-5 years time?). No reason why the LL would have an issue to it though. The LL/HL split should remain though. There should not be a west equivalent created. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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