Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Forest_Fifer]

None of that explains why a highly contageous but not overly deadly virus which kills from causing pneumonia could not have gone undetected during a time of year where flu and pneumonia related deaths are relatively common.
I'm not saying it did, only that it's plausible.

Indeed.

[Todd_is_God]

Just now, Forest_Fifer said:

3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

I'm not claiming anything.

You suggested that it was plausible that the first wave of covid 19 could have gone undetected during the normal flu season.

I said it was plausible based on a couple of assumptions, yes.

But that's not me saying that is what happened.

Do you think that is plausible or implausible?

[Am Featha Taigh Nan Clach]

4 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

I will.

I want to return to some sort of normality ASAP (slightly selfishly as I am in a low risk age group with no underlying health conditions). I feel it's only right that I do my bit where possible to help lower the transmission rate.

[Bairnardo]

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

Absolutely, on the proviso that there are iron clad assurances about data usage and deletion post pandemic.

[Steven W]

8 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

Not convinced we'll have it in Scotland (at least not at the same time as England).

[Savage Henry]

They're basically becoming a test centre for the next strategy. Test, trace and isolate using a new App that apparently uses Bluetooth that doesn't drain your battery.

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They were also promoted to third in line questioner after the BBC and ITV.

[Bairnardo]

Not convinced we'll have it in Scotland (at least not at the same time as England).

There would surely be absolutely no reason not to have it?

[Forest_Fifer]

I said it was plausible based on a couple of assumptions, yes.
But that's not me saying that is what happened.
Do you think that is plausible or implausible?

I know how much you like graphs.



No, it's not plausible.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

So we've had the brass neck care home bosses with their crocodile tears.

Now it's the turn of private nursery bosses to have a whine - another bunch of brass neck b*****ds.

[Steven W]

1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

5 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Not convinced we'll have it in Scotland (at least not at the same time as England).

There would surely be absolutely no reason not to have it?

Health is a devolved matter.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52533449

In among here NS speaks about "old-fashioned contact tracing" was still going to be key. In her briefing today she was noticeably less enthusiastic about an app in comparison to the UK one.

I'm sure we'll get it, but quite possibly a little later than down south.

[Granny Danger]

1 minute ago, DeeTillEhDeh said:

So we've had the brass neck care home bosses with their crocodile tears.

Now it's the turn of private nursery bosses to have a whine - another bunch of brass neck b*****ds.

I’ve always felt uncomfortable about the profit concept in social care.  You maximise your profit by providing the least expensive service to residents; hence many/most care workers being on minimum wage and generally poor contracts.

That said, this stems directly from policies of successive governments.  Only a political change will have any impact upon how people are looked after in old age.

 

[Todd_is_God]

14 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

I know how much you like graphs.



No, it's not plausible.

Not even that?

The one spike without the dominant influenza type noted?

Edited May 4, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[Granny Danger]

14 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

24 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

Absolutely, on the proviso that there are iron clad assurances about data usage and deletion post pandemic.

I’d get these assurances in writing.  Then you’ll know that they’re valid.

[Forest_Fifer]

Not even that?
The one spike without the dominant influenza type noted?

It's not noted because they won't know what the dominant flu variant was for the last winter yet.. If you think you can compare that spike which is no worse than the last few years with what we are currently going through, I can only conclude that you're at it.

[Todd_is_God]

5 minutes ago, Forest_Fifer said:

21 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Not even that?
The one spike without the dominant influenza type noted?

If you think you can compare that spike which is no worse than the last few years with what we are currently going through, I can only conclude that you're at it.

For something to fly under the radar that would have to be true...

Why would they not know what the dominant type was btw? The very same document breaks down recorded influenza infections by variant.

Edited May 4, 2020 by Todd_is_God

[Thereisalight..]

51 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

No

1 hour ago, NotThePars said:

He's married.

So was Elton John before David 

[DA Baracus]

2 hours ago, Steven W said:

Earlier I posted that I had worries that Test, Trace, Isolate would mean the football would be up the spout, but I only skimmed over the details of the document.

On reflection football should be ok then, as players are never within 2 metres of one another for anything more than a few seconds. (Changing rooms and transport to away games will need to be looked at right enough)

That's not what will prevent football being played in Scotland in empty stadiums.

41 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

51 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

Absolutely, on the proviso that there are iron clad assurances about data usage and deletion post pandemic.

Like in The Dark Knight when Lucius is able to destroy the tracking app?

[Bairnardo]

6 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

That's not what will prevent football being played in Scotland in empty stadiums.

Like in The Dark Knight when Lucius is able to destroy the tracking app?

Absolutely

 

[ayrmad]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Is everyone going to download the NHS contact tracing app?

Naw

[Jacksgranda]

47 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

I’ve always felt uncomfortable about the profit concept in social care.  You maximise your profit by providing the least expensive service to residents; hence many/most care workers being on minimum wage and generally poor contracts.

That said, this stems directly from policies of successive governments.  Only a political change will have any impact upon how people are looked after in old age.

 

We have to pay for this one way or the other. Better through taxation for state run care homes than through your taxed wages for private run ones, imo. The government (taxpayer) pays a % of patient care costs in any case, afaik.

Bit like the so called taxpayer funded privatised railways.