Detournement Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 It wouldn't indefinitely though. It would be equivalent to the previous shielding period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Except they’ve worked out it isn’t 1% and 99%Where do you draw the line for vulnerable?...over 80s, over 75s or over 70s? Obese, other medical conditions? Then factor in everyone who lives in the same household as those at risk. Add in care staff and their households and you’re apparently approaching 25% of the population. You can’t lock up a quarter of the population indefinitely under a “herd immunity” solution when we don’t even know how long any natural immunity lasts - people could be reinfected 3 months or 6 months after getting an all clear. Until a safe and effective vaccination is distributed we’re almost certainly going to be taking this fairly unsatisfactory start/stop approach to managing spikes and local outbreaks. Only at that point will it be managed as per the option 3 - as per current influenza. About 0.5% of infected people die from covidSo you shield the 0.5% most vulnerable 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, Snafu said: What happened, thought Sweden never had any restrictions. The far right's idea of utopia is not quite what it seems apparently. It was Belarus that had more of a complete free for all on stuff like that which is why FC Slutsk briefly shot to fame. Lukashenko is a Soviet Union nostalgist rather than far right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, get_the_subbies_on said: Except they’ve worked out it isn’t 1% and 99% Where do you draw the line for vulnerable?...over 80s, over 75s or over 70s? Obese, other medical conditions? Then factor in everyone who lives in the same household as those at risk. Add in care staff and their households and you’re apparently approaching 25% of the population. You can’t lock up a quarter of the population indefinitely under a “herd immunity” solution when we don’t even know how long any natural immunity lasts - people could be reinfected 3 months or 6 months after getting an all clear. Until a safe and effective vaccination is distributed we’re almost certainly going to be taking this fairly unsatisfactory start/stop approach to managing spikes and local outbreaks. Only at that point will it be managed as per the option 3 - as per current influenza. Why would you need to isolate carers? If you can get unlimited tests for gubbins Scottish footballers on a whim then there should be routine testing for carers as well. That should be near the top of the priority list instead of testing every grotty wean in sight just because their parent is climbing the walls at having to look after them. Edited October 8, 2020 by vikingTON 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Snafu said: What happened, thought Sweden never had any restrictions. The far right's idea of utopia is not quite what it seems apparently. I think it was führer sturgeon hiding all the fans 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Snafu said: Maybe the far right should be talking up Belarus instead of Sweden. No, they hate these people. The way ahead should be determined by a rational appraisal of the scientific data rather than narrow minded political tribalism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Lofarl said: Got a few off my work now. Everyone hopes that they get a isolate alert. I don’t. f**k sitting in the house for two weeks. You don’t know how I live. Two weeks. f**k that. You're right. You don't want to. Not long finished a fortnight's isolation. It was awful 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Really don’t understand why London isn’t the worst effected, i know about the working from home but it’s rammed and the most populated place in the uk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Really don’t understand why London isn’t the worst effected, i know about the working from home but it’s rammed and the most populated place in the uk. Got hit the hardest in March/April so they are probably much closer to herd immunity. The "second wave" is really just a case of finishing off the first one where it got stalled by the lockdown. Edited October 8, 2020 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, Donathan said: About 0.5% of infected people die from covid So you shield the 0.5% most vulnerable Not sure if serious? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Got hit the hardest in March/April so they are probably much closer to herd immunity. The "second wave" is really just a case of finishing off the first one where it got stalled by the lockdown. I suppose then that’s a good thing because if this was to spike again then nearly all of the uk would be at their levels? Unless it wears off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Has the Prof fixed it yet? Oot for the second half of extra time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Got hit the hardest in March/April so they are probably much closer to herd immunity. The "second wave" is really just a case of finishing off the first one where it got stalled by the lockdown. Exactly. The low death rate compared to cases suggests its hoovering up the ones it missed in March. The majority will have had a few months taken away from them at worst as they were on the way out anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Exactly. The low death rate compared to cases suggests its hoovering up the ones it missed in March. The majority will have had a few months taken away from them at worst as they were on the way out anyway.Utter pish, thousands have had lives ruined by this and they had decades left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCinthearea Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: 10 minutes ago, FFCinthearea said: Exactly. The low death rate compared to cases suggests its hoovering up the ones it missed in March. The majority will have had a few months taken away from them at worst as they were on the way out anyway. Utter pish, thousands have had lives ruined by this and they had decades left. Nonsense. Over 80% of the deaths in Scotland were over 75 and most of that number was from nursing homes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Chairman Mao, the embodiment of Are we sure he's Todd? I dont remember him being this fucking boring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I was in Walkabout and they just turned off the screens at 90 minutes. Dr Jason Yankem must have forgotten about having that word with his pals. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 13 minutes ago, MixuFruit said: It's Jeremiah What did he get the banhammer for again? I can't be arsed going back months on the thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: I was in Walkabout and they just turned off the screens at 90 minutes. Dr Jason Yankem must have forgotten about having that word with his pals. At least your evening was already ruined by being in a pointless bin like Walkabout. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 (edited) Why is this dickhead allowed to walk down the street without being questioned? Edited October 9, 2020 by Marshmallo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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