Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 That seems a bit of a reach tbh. The virus on its own would not be harming the economy anywhere near as much as the restrictions are. The example Devi Sridhar gives to support this claim - that some states in the US which relaxed did not see a bounceback - fails to take into account that when Governments etc spend months telling people not to do something because it's dangerous and deadly, that people might be reluctant to immediately believe that is no longer the case. It would likely have some effect, but the biggest impact has undeniably been caused by the reaction from governments, and the restrictions put in place. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 52 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said: Chinese said it was airborne in February. https://www.thailandmedical.news/news/china-officially-announces-that-the-coronavirus-can-be-airborne-and-can-be-conditionally-spread-via-aerosol-transmission- I remember this because it was a game changer. Pretty sure the YouTube doctor mentioned this. Watched him at the start of the outbreak. The uk made a complete arse of everything and ignored all advice. I think when you said ‘UK’ you actually meant most of the western world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, madwullie said: I read it. But you didn't show that in what you said. Where is the comparison? How much was it last year? What were patients admitted with last year? How many? Is just over 100 a lot for wherever this is? I'm guessing none at all were admitted with covid, so you're saying that there are more covid admissions this year between April and May than there were last year but without showing any evidence from last year ? That graph only shows number of patients admitted somewhere with covid in a six week period, yet you're trying to say it shows a comparison year on year of... I'm not entirely sure what. I mean, you actually say that hardly any covid admissions were with covid, yet that's not really what the graph shows at all. Anyone might think that's why he never links the source of his material. I know I do. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, madwullie said: NHS Lanarkshire currently have over 200 covid patients, more than they had at the peak of the first wave, and numbers are rising. 200 people with a positive PCR test =/= 200 covid patients. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That seems a bit of a reach tbh. The virus on its own would not be harming the economy anywhere near as much as the restrictions are. The example Devi Sridhar gives to support this claim - that some states in the US which relaxed did not see a bounceback - fails to take into account that when Governments etc spend months telling people not to do something because it's dangerous and deadly, that people might be reluctant to immediately believe that is no longer the case. It would likely have some effect, but the biggest impact has undeniably been caused by the reaction from governments, and the restrictions put in place. Aweferfuxache... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I think when you said ‘UK’ you actually meant most of the western world. Yeah we aren't any better/worse than most. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 NHS Lanarkshire currently have over 200 covid patients, more than they had at the peak of the first wave, and numbers are rising. Its a prank bro 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: 200 people with a positive PCR test =/= 200 covid patients. Not sure why this is relevant? Does it say they had a positive pcr test? Presumably they're not admitting asymptomatic or mildly ill people. They say they're treating over 200 patients for covid. What are you suggesting they're doing? I don't really see what difference the semantics makes. I can't for the life of me work out how to link to the video Edited October 21, 2020 by madwullie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, madwullie said: Not sure why this is relevant? Does it say they had a positive pcr test? Presumably they're not admitting asymptomatic or mildly ill people. They say they're treating over 200 patients for covid. What are you suggesting they're doing? I don't really see what difference the semantics makes. I can't for the life of me work out how to link to the video No, but if you need to go into hospital for any reason, you get tested. Far from being semantic, there is a world of difference between treating 200 people for Covid, and treating 200 people with Covid. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: No, but if you need to go into hospital for any reason, you get tested. No, you don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, welshbairn said: No, you don't. Well you certainly do here. Is that not the same here? Edited October 21, 2020 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Well you certainly do here. Is that not the same here? I thought you had been in rehab to wean you off the extrapolations, m8? Edited October 21, 2020 by Melanius Mullarkey -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, Todd_is_God said: Well you certainly do here. Is that not the same here? Overnight or for surgery isn't for any reason. I'm not sure of the rules here, but I've never been tested. Used to be that all patients over 70 were tested here, that might have increased. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Just now, welshbairn said: Overnight or for surgery isn't for any reason. I'm not sure of the rules here, but I've never been tested. Used to be that all patients over 70 were tested here, that might have increased. The bottom image covers the rest. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkey said: I thought you had been in rehab to wean you off the extrapolations, m8? The irony -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: The irony Explain. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 This is an absolute game changer when it comes to shitey paywalls like The Telegraph. Works for all major newspapers, just download it as a Chrome extension (I use the Firefox version so I'm sure there's a version to suit your browser) https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome Or refresh the page page and stop before it fully loads.You still see the full articles then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Or refresh the page page and stop before it fully loads. You still see the full articles then. Is there any way of doing that on a mobile? (Android. Chrome app) Edit - Worked it out. Thanks for the tip.Bit of a game changer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 I see the "red dot" moron squad are out in force today, thankfully I've had them (and their team) on ignore for quite some time now which gives an all round better forum experience for all.I have most of them on ignore now.Bar one they don't have an original thought between them as they play pass the brain cell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 8 hours ago, No_Problemo said: I thought the 26th of October was a definitive end date for hospitality closures..... as opposed to the usual review and extend. I thought at the time restrictions were announced that there was no way they’d end on the 26th. I always thought they’d extend it week by week so there would be no outcry. Just like people accepted a near 5 month lockdown because they were spoon fed extensions, rather than have the Govt say in March that we’d be in a 5 month lockdown and people would have been outraged 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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