Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[invergowrie arab]

55 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

If you’ve discussed it properly then I’m not sure it is flippant. It’s up to him and you.

He is housebound as it is with COPD,88 and he is also undergoing radiation therapy for bowel cancer. So on the ine hand it seems grossly irresposnsible as if he gets the virus I wouldn't fancy his chances but as he says himself says he doesn't fancy his chances long term anyway.

[WhiteRoseKillie]

Devon Loch would be a more apt Grand National horse to reference in this instance.

Indeed it would- I fucked that one up, didn't I?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

 
 

The cranky covid denier - nah - it couldn't be...

[Markka]

One thing that will get the middle-class anti-vaxxers changing their minds is if countries make it mandatory to have the vaccine before before they go off on their skiing holiday.

Undoubtedly. I know plenty of folk who are sceptical of Covid, and wary of the vaccine. Reckon all of them would take it if it meant they could get away for their holidays overseas.

In that situation, I'd be interested to see how many hardcore anti-vaxxers would hold their nerve.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

The supermarkets and shops in Kirkcaldy are heaving too. Centre of Edinburgh was very quiet today, given we’re on the run up to Christmas. Trains were dead. Me and one other person on my carriage on the way through. Me and four other people on the way back.

Wife works in Debenhams in Dundee - they had customers in today who had travelled from Glasgow

[DeeTillEhDeh]

NS may come under some pressure after BJs announcement re football fans, but I can't think from who.
Only Dave Cormack at Aberdeen has been vocal about the issue. The other clubs have said very little. The SFA / JRG would appear to have their own agenda re the whole issue.
The non-league clubs' #letfansin camps has been ignored by all.

Sportsound seem to continually push it.

[Sergeant Wilson]

8 minutes ago, Markka said:

Undoubtedly. I know plenty of folk who are sceptical of Covid, and wary of the vaccine. Reckon all of them would take it if it meant they could get away for their holidays overseas.

In that situation, I'd be interested to see how many hardcore anti-vaxxers would hold their nerve.

Sceptical in w hat way?

[NotThePars]

1 hour ago, Bairnardo said:

During the first lockdown I used the in laws to watch the kids. Same this time round although I think it may be allowed now....

Regardless, if that gets banned, I will still do it.

 

1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

I go to my grandads every Saturday and sit indoors with him and have a cup of tea despite him being in a bubble with my mum.

If you want to accuse me of me being too kindhearted then go ahead I can take it.

He's also free and easy with codeine.

ETA we have discussed the risks and he says he would rather take his chances than sit in alone. I guess that's a flippant thing to say when your not gasping for breath on a ventilator with no family around but it's up to him.

 

1 hour ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I had to sneak across the berlin wall to get some paint from B&Q in Cumbernauld as the Falkirk store didn't have what I needed, next week I've got 2 clock & collects from screwfix , one in Linlithgow the other in Bathgate, again , Falkirk store out of stock.  come to think of it it does sound like the cold war a bit?  if anyone else needs some goods from the west let me know , take a small cut for myself obviously since i'm dodging the stasi

 

1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkey said:

When I was in isolation, I broke my curfew 1 hour early.

Sue me.

 

1 hour ago, Markka said:

I have, on a few occasions at least. Examples:

I've changed my "bubble" a few times to allow for meeting folk in their homes. Whether that was specifically against the law at the time I don't know.

My brother turned 30 in the summer and we had about a dozen or so people outside for drinks to celebrate.

Went round to a mates for some drinks a few weeks ago, four of us from four households.

 

1 hour ago, Distant Doonhamer said:

I'm an absolute rebel. I once only spent 19 seconds washing my hands.

 

Thanks. I've submitted all of these to the Procurator Fiscal and you'll be hearing from the Crown in due course. Better get Peter Dow on the phone for some advice.

[Markka]

Sceptical in w hat way?

Generally about the severity of the virus and the severity of the restrictions. None of them are outright covid-deniers as far as I know.

[Gus Setsniffer]

30 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Qantas have set the ball rolling on this

i seen that on twitter, the state of the replies 

[Michael W]

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03326-w

Just been reading this article on the Oxford vaccine. Within the article it states that Moderna and Pfizer only tested participants who showed symptoms. The Oxford/AZ participants were all swabbed every week. 

I don't want to piss on anyone's chips, but that looks to me like a fundamental flaw in the Moderna/Pfizer trials. I'm not qualified on this area but it stands to reason that asymptomatic infection could just as easily have occurred during those trials, yet it will have gone entirely undetected. I hope there's a reasonable explanation here, but suddenly those hight efficacy rates look a bit shaky. 

Now,of course the measurement of success with these vaccines is that it prevents people becoming seriously ill rather than completely eliminating the possibility of catching covid, which all three managed to achieve. But it almost looks a cynical way of boosting the results. 

Edited November 23, 2020 by Michael W

[Guest Jedi]

Ach, the Sturg has had an outstanding period since March though, so if she says 'go oot and get pure bevied for 5 days, and don't worry, you can make it up with a full lockdown in January', she must be doing the right thing.

[D.A.F.C]

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

[Granny Danger]

2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

[101]

5 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

You know Track and Trace is an English thing right?

[Melanius Mullarkey]

4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

So close, you missed out the Nike conference.

Silver medal.

 

[btb]

2 hours ago, Steven W said:

NS may come under some pressure after BJs announcement re football fans, but I can't think from who.

Only Dave Cormack at Aberdeen has been vocal about the issue. The other clubs have said very little. The SFA / JRG would appear to have their own agenda re the whole issue.

The non-league clubs' #letfansin camps has been ignored by all.

ICT had 300 fans in on Saturday.

Edited November 23, 2020 by btb

[101]

Just now, MixuFruit said:

What did our track and trace do wrong?

I know its incredibly petty but it's Test and Protect ffs.

No wonder folk get scammed because every scam I've heard has always said "I'm calling from test and trace" 

[The Naitch]

13 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

Sturgeon didn't attend Cobra meetings because she was busy chairing the Scottish equivalent at the time. There's a lot to answer for at the end of this whole thing but, for the most part, that post of yours is a bit of a swing and a miss.

Edited November 23, 2020 by The Naitch

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

She’s presented a total failure really well and avoided any really tough questions.

Didnt turn up for initial cobr meetings

care homes

testing

track and trace

allowing large crowds

blaming some failings on Westminster

spread in hospitals 

deputies don’t get a word in other than to make a mess of it

Apart from that she appears honest and presents things clearly.

 

All much ado about nothing I'M afraid.

Nobody is saying it's been perfect, however your "list" applies to almost every country in Europe and many of them with much worse records than Scotland.