WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 hours ago, 101 said: The UK government have some serious questions to answer why supply seems all over the place for the devolved nations but England seem to have constant supply even enough to ditch the priority group schedule to in an attempt to grab newspaper front pages Absolutely this - it's noticeable that all of a sudden Care Homes have become a priority after the trumpeting of the sheer numbers they were in front of Scotland. Somebody must have poiinted out that some, at least, of the GBP were actually taking note of which arms the jabs were going into, and "it's too difficult" wasn't a reasonable excuse - especially given their cavalier attitude to the Care sector in the initial wave of this shitstorm. The devolved nations, on the whole, appear to have had their minds focussed by a paucity of supply, and so have had to make choices as to where the vacine should go first. England appears to have vaccine coming out of their ears - witness the focus on opening up mega-jab sites - yet their decision-making is still focussed on getting positive headlines in the Heil/Excess. Anyhoo, with a bit of luck they might get confused and forget to give that cúnt Zahawi a vaccination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: So say you have 20 care homes and 10 vaccination staff, 50-70 residents to be jagged in each, give each staff member one for the morning and one for the afternoon. Would be the same as having 10 staff in a vaccination centre doing morning and afternoon shift. Not really getting the perception of logistical issues around this. Slightly more inconvenient but not really a staggering undertaking surely? I suppose that it's not as black and white as that. Some of the oldies won't turn up, won't be feeling well etc etc. Then the vaccination staff will have to go back at another point, and it all takes time. I wonder if some NHS authorities are having issues with visiting care homes, or those that can't get to a vaccination centre. My old man is 88, has COPD and is housebound and has been shielding for a year. He can't possibly get out the house to go to a vaccination centre, and is waiting patiently on his GP contacting him to arrange for someone to come to the house. He then hears that the neighbours 2 doors up...both in their early 80's and in good health....have already had their invitations to go to the vaccination centre. We've told him not to worry and get nervous about it, but their does seem to be a randomness about the vaccination which will eventually make more people very edgy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Sorry if i missed this, but when can we expect to start seeing the cases dropping, what with a lockdown and vaccination program? Seem to be at 1400 per day at the moment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bob Mahelp said: I suppose that it's not as black and white as that. Some of the oldies won't turn up, won't be feeling well etc etc. Then the vaccination staff will have to go back at another point, and it all takes time. I wonder if some NHS authorities are having issues with visiting care homes, or those that can't get to a vaccination centre. My old man is 88, has COPD and is housebound and has been shielding for a year. He can't possibly get out the house to go to a vaccination centre, and is waiting patiently on his GP contacting him to arrange for someone to come to the house. He then hears that the neighbours 2 doors up...both in their early 80's and in good health....have already had their invitations to go to the vaccination centre. We've told him not to worry and get nervous about it, but their does seem to be a randomness about the vaccination which will eventually make more people very edgy. There is a randomness, my wifes practice got 200 doses delivered and 380 people in the current categories to vaccinate, staff have to pick quickly who to vaccinate in this stage. Of the 200 phoned however 199 accepted and 1 refused stating unless it cured cancer they didnt want it (person doesnt have cancer). But the post ive picked above is about care homes where you dont need to worry about people turning up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I'm a bit underwhelmed by the new vaccine centres the army are setting up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurkst Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: Northern Ireland is quietly doing very well on vaccine rollout. I believe they've done almost all care homes. Good work from the Bunfields, who will be keen to get back to normal for rioting season this summer. Is it a Protestant or Catholic vaccine they've been using? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm a bit underwhelmed by the new vaccine centres the army are setting up. It's a bit like UNIT from the old Dr Who. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 16 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Sorry if i missed this, but when can we expect to start seeing the cases dropping, what with a lockdown and vaccination program? Seem to be at 1400 per day at the moment. You would expect that to happen once we start getting decent numbers of the general public vaccinated. Vaccinating the most vulnerable in our care homes is great as it will mean they will be much less likely to die, but it's not that group that are driving community transmission or making up a large portion of the cases. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWL Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm a bit underwhelmed by the new vaccine centres the army are setting up. You better no be mocking are brave troops of the BRITISH Army, by the way. #kbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 41 minutes ago, madwullie said: No idea about 1, but I presume with 2, ordering say 500 people to turn up to a sports centre and jagging them all day will be quicker than going round say (numbers out my arse here) 100 separate care homes and jagging 50 residents in each, what with the travel etc required. Depends on the number of vaccinators I suppose, but it'll always be quicker getting loads of people to come to you, than individually going to a smaller number of people. Guaranteed someone will be on in a second to explain this better than I have. No doubt @Glen Sannox will be along soon needing this explained for the 4th day in a row. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 25 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Sorry if i missed this, but when can we expect to start seeing the cases dropping, what with a lockdown and vaccination program? Seem to be at 1400 per day at the moment. The BBC news at lunch had some talk of the effects being seen by the end of February and then a return to tiers as they work their way through the various vulnerable groups until May. Then a debate as to where to go next, possibly teachers and shop workers rather than by age. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Why aren’t we vaccinating at the same rate as England? -9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Sorry if i missed this, but when can we expect to start seeing the cases dropping, what with a lockdown and vaccination program? Seem to be at 1400 per day at the moment.They’ve dropped fairly consistently over the last couple of weeks. The 7 day average is 1,795, last Monday it was 2,150, and Monday 4th it was 2,229. Getting there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 The scale on that graph is useless 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest_Fifer Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Why aren’t we vaccinating at the same rate as England?Pointless graph, comparing the number of vaccinations across countries with hugely different populations isnt helpful in any way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Tourette Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 So say you have 20 care homes and 10 vaccination staff, 50-70 residents to be jagged in each, give each staff member one for the morning and one for the afternoon. Would be the same as having 10 staff in a vaccination centre doing morning and afternoon shift. Not really getting the perception of logistical issues around this. Slightly more inconvenient but not really a staggering undertaking surely?I think I heard all care home residents are getting the Pfizer vaccine, so there are bound to be logistical issues with travelling round care homes with -80deg super refrigerated vialsGetting the standard over 80s to rock up to a mass vaccination centre is bound to be miles quicker as you don’t have to move the vaccine while refrigerated 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lex Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Pointless graph, comparing the number of vaccinations across countries with hugely different populations isnt helpful in any way.Ok here’s a graph for per 100 population. Why the huge discrepancy? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Lex said: Ok here’s a graph for per 100 population. Why the huge discrepancy? Scotland is going for the care homes first whereas I think BoJo is just going for everyone so they can do Eat Out To Help Out again and get another spike in cases and deaths. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erih Shtrep Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Lex said: Ok here’s a graph for per 100 population. Why the huge discrepancy? ITS ALREADY BEEN EXPLAINED AT GREAT LENGTH JUST READ THE THREAD. England's approach will cost lives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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