realmadrid Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 44 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Someone needs to tell Jet2 that 2021 is a goner. This was their mail drop a few your a go....2022 ! it might still be possible but working in travel we always sell at least 18 months in advance, especially for family groups who need to plan and may need to use a savings plan to pay for their trip. We will have 2023 on sale in the next few months, it puts the pressure on those who book to come to the hotel each year to book as they know we sell out each year and there is a danger they will miss out. I cannot see anything wrong with them advertising a little in advance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 TUI have a few grand of mine. No point asking for it back and causing them more issues. I want a holiday when this ends. Not sure how ATOL protection works with vouchers though.Book the holiday.You will at least get your money back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 ATOL doesn’t cover vouchers. Rishi will pony up instead. God bless the British taxpayer. https://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/2020/07/refund-credit-notes-for-holidays-cancelled-due-to-coronavirus-no/I assume it was issued between the dates given?There will be a lot of people who may have taken them when holidays to Turkey were cancelled in October - they won't be covered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, realmadrid said: it might still be possible but working in travel we always sell at least 18 months in advance, especially for family groups who need to plan and may need to use a savings plan to pay for their trip. We will have 2023 on sale in the next few months, it puts the pressure on those who book to come to the hotel each year to book as they know we sell out each year and there is a danger they will miss out. I cannot see anything wrong with them advertising a little in advance. Was going to say this. I usually book Florida flights well over a year in advance if available as I book everything separately, much to my own downfall as the last ever Thomas Cook flight into Glasgow in 2019 was supposed to be firing back out 5 hours later with me on it and of course, never left. Was some going getting flights to Miami via Heathrow for the next day booked and driving up to Orlando from there - try selling that to a family of 7 folk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 @Bairnardo, this is the thread I've finally re-stumbled on from the other day that describes the urgency and process for tweaking vaccines. It wasn't a video after all. It's v technical and miles beyond my in general, although I do get the gist - the bit about it not being an instantaneous process is in about tweet 17 onwards, but the rest is worth trying to get your head around. (c**t doesn't number his tweets, so will be amongst the first against the wall when I take charge) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realmadrid Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 minute ago, djchapsticks said: Was going to say this. I usually book Florida flights well over a year in advance if available as I book everything separately, much to my own downfall as the last ever Thomas Cook flight into Glasgow in 2019 was supposed to be firing back out 5 hours later with me on it and of course, never left. Was some going getting flights to Miami via Heathrow for the next day booked and driving up to Orlando from there - try selling that to a family of 7 folk. Exactly I do the same for Scotland games but do leave it late, but its just me and a mate Big groups need a lot of planning , we sold most of our 2021 rooms in 2020 and all the requests just now are for 2022 and 2023 (a few for Christmas this year) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 Out of interest......In the foreseeable scenario that England open up reciprocal quarantine free travel with a few countries for summer, and Scotland do not, how many of you would be prepared to take a holiday by flying from/to England? Lets assume for the exercise that its July, and everyone over 50 is vaccinated. Nicola Sturgeon has told Scots they should not be doing this. I would.I wouldn't. I'm a lazy c**t and couldn't be arsed with the journey down for the outgoing flight or the return leg[emoji23][emoji23]I'd see absolutely nothing wrong with people doing it though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Out of interest......In the foreseeable scenario that England open up reciprocal quarantine free travel with a few countries for summer, and Scotland do not, how many of you would be prepared to take a holiday by flying from/to England? Lets assume for the exercise that its July, and everyone over 50 is vaccinated. Nicola Sturgeon has told Scots they should not be doing this. I would. Without a doubt. Though as others have said, I just don't see how it would be a tenable position for the Scottish Government. 1 hour ago, Left Back said: More deaths in the second wave now than the first. That’s criminal levels of incompetence from all concerned. Not that I'm defending any government, but is it really much of a surprise? It's winter during the worst pandemic for a century. The whole northern hemisphere is being battered. 1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said: 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: 100% Newcastle / Manchester are not that far away. Where is this opening up coming from. I saw Hancock and Johnson mention "holidays" but no mention of them being abroad. Have I missed something ? They have both been saying they're more optimistic in the past couple of days. I know, I know... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, realmadrid said: Exactly I do the same for Scotland games but do leave it late, but its just me and a mate Big groups need a lot of planning , we sold most of our 2021 rooms in 2020 and all the requests just now are for 2022 and 2023 (a few for Christmas this year) Yeah, I was planning on Orlando in September or October this year before it all hit but made the decision very early doors (like May last year) that it was a no-go due to a few factors. Mainly everyone and their granny who got cancelled in 2020 will be wanting to go and I don't fancy that level of crowd. Also, I'm outright refusing to go into that humidity and wear a mask all day in a theme park. No chance. So I'm now planning on September 2022 at the earliest, possibly as late as March or May 2023. Extend it out to 3 weeks and that will let us hit the Florida Keys for a week too. I'll book closer to home until then (Europe or Canaries) if circumstances allow us to go away without any fuss or risks of travel corridors or any of that pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I assume it was issued between the dates given? There will be a lot of people who may have taken them when holidays to Turkey were cancelled in October - they won't be covered. Holiday was in June last year. Cancelled mid May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Didn't take long 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 My dad is getting his first vaccine a week on Friday. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 fucking pages 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: 8 fucking pages This fucking place 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 Antibodies from infection found to last AT LEAST 6 months. More good news. They are going to have to announce that the next mutation turns your arsehole inside out and dissolves the wee bones in your ear at this rate. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 8 hours ago, Marshmallo said: This bozo is absolutely cacking it about "variants" I stumbled on this last night. After it they interviewed Jason Leitch. It was like the story about transmission and the Oxford vaccine hadn't broken. Am I wrong in thinking that news is the best news we've had in all this? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 BBC news have abandoned reporting news it would seem this morning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: 8 fucking pages This fucking country. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 I took notes of Sturgeon’s speech today, in the hope that she might have some positive news about a route out of all this, and that those of us in the beleaguered hospitality, nightclub, live music and events sectors might be able to see some light at the end of a very long dark tunnel. This is what she said: ”We will be living with restrictions until all of across the U.K. and further, across the world, have vaccinated a (mumble, mumble) significant number of people’, and ‘given what we don’t yet know about the impact of the vaccination on transmission, we may actually be living with some degree of restrictions after we have vaccinated a significant sector of the population.’ So, my take from this is that ongoing government restrictions will be the new normal, and that a return to normality (rather than Sturgeon’s carefully-worded, expectation-limiting ‘greater normality’) is a very, very long way off. Given that ongoing restrictions and a return to the tier system, which is all the hope we’re being offered ATM, effectively consigns the live music industry (which everyone knows can’t operate under social distancing restrictions no matter how much SG hopes we might be able to run ‘test events’ at some unspecified point in the future to demonstrate some entirely spurious form of ‘viability’) - and the events services companies that service the music industry - to the dustbin; nightclubs (which aren’t even allowed to open in Tier 0), and hospitality (which can only just about break even with 100% rates relief, rent reductions, flexible furlough and / or other ongoing government support under SG’s onerous social distancing / curfews / alcohol bans and other mitigations strategy built into the tier system) will be crippled for the foreseeable future, with the likelihood of these industries continuing to shrivel and die, with the few remaining businesses drastically reducing overheads to survive in a heavily-restricted ‘new normal’ world of minuscule returns. I’d initially thought we’d get back to (something like) normal when the vulnerable groups (over 60s and those with underlying conditions + health care workers) were vaccinated, coinciding with the seasonal downturn of the virus in the late spring / early summer. I was quickly disabused of this notion. Then I consoled myself with the thought that at least with every adult in the U.K. likely to be vaccinated (or offered the vaccine) by September, we’d be out of this by October. Now, after Sturgeon’s latest hope-extinguishing speech, I genuinely think we’ll be dealing with government restrictions, social distancing and draconian travel restrictions for the rest of the year, at least, just in case. Certainly, for me, with circa 100 employees in businesses across the live music, events services, nightclubs and hospitality sectors, I’m now getting the impression that SG is so in thrall to this Zero Covid fantasy, and so petrified of risk from the media-hyped new variants (Sky News and the BBC today were both breathlessly reporting that the Essex variant and the South African variant are teaming up Avengers Assemble-style to form a super-powered mutant strain), and negative messaging and evasion of all risk and responsibility (rather than just the so-called ‘caution’ that many have lauded them for) is now so endemic to SG’s worldview, that they’ve boxed themselves into a corner, crippled by caution. Small businesses and independent operators in these sectors are now facing the prospect of admitting defeat after struggling through the last 12 months of this soul-destroying pandemic. If there is no hope forthcoming from government, then there is little or no incentive for business operators to continue. Job losses and business failures will escalate, further crippling a moribund Scottish economy that has already shown a more significant Covid-led downturn than any of the other home nations. We keep waiting for SG to offer a glimpse of optimism for these sectors, but my feeling is that if the (incredibly efficient) vaccines aren’t enough to get Sturgeon offering a scintilla of hope to the business community, nothing will. Sturgeon seems to thrive on negative messaging and the tightening of restrictions. I’m resigned to the fact that restrictions will continue long after the cost / benefit analysis suggest they should be lifted, and I’ve seen absolutely nothing to suggest that Sturgeon will inspire in leading us out of this shitshow towards a more hopeful future.Remember 5-7 year old kids might be able to go back to School in 3 weeks time. [emoji848] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philpy Posted February 3, 2021 Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, gav-ffc said: This fucking country. ARE BRAVE SIR TOM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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