Distant Doonhamer Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I like NS, but the tone is completely wrong. It’s perfectly reasonable to be cautious with the measures while having a more positive tone, to encourage “one last push” to get the numbers right now down as far as possible and to emphasise how great it is that hospital/ICU numbers are down 60% plus on the most recent peak. People aren’t going to think “f**k it” just by getting a wee bit more hope.Your point is well made though I don’t think the hospital and ICU number are down by 60%. ICU at 100 from a high of 161 for this peak. Hospital numbers 1383 from 2053 for the same period. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arabdownunder Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Cases back to zero here, five day lockdown lifted. Fitba and pub tomorrow 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Panic over lads, the tories have leaked some morphine through the Daily Mail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Arabdownunder said: Cases back to zero here, five day lockdown lifted. Fitba and pub tomorrow Enjoy it while it lasts, there is an expert on here that predicts that you will be going into full prison-like lockdown when your winter months kicks in. While he will be dancing on the terraces of Hampden with another 100,000 fans at George Sq watching on the big screen. He has been very quiet yesterday.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 More leakages from the Tory rags Judy Murray is a fucking cow and no one cares about her turkey neck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: I'm not convinced this advert will have the impact the SG think it will. If they really want to push the "AnYoNe cAn GeT iT" message, perhaps an otherwise healthy looking young person might be more effective. I have a sneaky suspision there may not be many examples of that, though. I wonder why. Secondly "person becomes a bit unwell" is hardly good reason for extended restrictions. This particular example placed zero strain on the health service we must so desperately protect. Another picture of health there . 30 ffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, madwullie said: Panic over lads, the tories have leaked some morphine through the Daily Mail. Front of the Daily Mail m8. I’m sure they would never print any old shit just to sell their product. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Another picture of health there . 30 ffs. Isn’t 30 middle aged in Scotland? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Isn’t 30 middle aged in Scotland? Just in Lanarkshire I believe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 21 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Another picture of health there . 30 ffs. Paper round in Baghdad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, TheScarf said: Another picture of health there . 30 ffs. Thing is, even though he's hardly healthy, he wasn't anywhere near at death's door. He's had it mildly so it's fucking bizarre that they would roll someone like this out, someone who spent 3 weeks in the house with a cough and a fever to tell a cautionary tale. Cases like his, that did not even result in a hospital bed, much less an ICU or ventilatior are not at all relevant and should not even be in the discussion when it comes to what we are trying to bring down. Edited February 17, 2021 by djchapsticks 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I never knew covid gave you severe swelling of the coupon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 12 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: 12 hours ago, madmitch said: Not really been keeping in touch closely with how things are going in the U.K. or this thread for a while. A question, My 88 year old mother got her initial vaccine in mid January, the expectation was that she would receive the second dose in three weeks. She is now telling me it will be 12 weeks before she gets the second jab. WTF?! If what was promised was three weeks is now twelve weeks, does this mean that there will be a reduction in the efficacy of the vaccine? P.S. she contracted COVID a few months ago and survived. She's a tough old gal. The UK policy is 12 weeks between doses. Loads of info on efficacy, policy etc if you google it. Thanks very much for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 That is about 1000x more positive and informative than anything NS said today. You might be allowed a holiday to Dingwall in October by her speech.If NS has said you won't be allowed to meet loved ones even outside for 3 months and a return to the rule of six in 4, imagine the heads gone rage we would have seen yet here you are lauding that very suggestion. Bizarre! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Thing is, even though he's hardly healthy, he wasn't anywhere near at death's door. He's had it mildly so it's fucking bizarre that they would roll someone like this out, someone who spent 3 weeks in the house with a cough and a fever to tell a cautionary tale. Cases like his, that did not even result in a hospital bed, much less an ICU or ventilatior are not at all relevant and should not even be in the discussion when it comes to what we are trying to bring down. Indeed. I mentioned it a few days ago, but they need to really be interviewing the healthy, gym going 30 something who was in an ICU with Covid. But we all know they don’t exist. The ‘it could happen to anyone’ message is misinforming the public. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, TheScarf said: Indeed. I mentioned it a few days ago, but they need to really be interviewing the healthy, gym going 30 something who was in an ICU with Covid. But we all know they don’t exist. The ‘it could happen to anyone’ message is misinforming the public. I mean I'm overweight, not anywhere near the extent of this guy though and when gyms are open, I actively go regularly and work hard when there. I'm absolutely confident that even when carrying a bit of timber, I'd be nowhere near on my arse if I caught it. If the two folk they and the BBC pulled out the bag the last few days to show this could be affecting anyone are the best examples of cases in their 30s (one of which wasn't even serious despite him being fat) then they are pissing in the wind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tynierose said: Its beyond parody now. It will be interesting how they will proceed if the chancellor does not extend furlough again. Can't keep all those people in the house with no income surely? Then again there won't be much left to open anyway will there... If Sunak doesn't extend furlough I expect to see things start to open up fairly rapidly, especially if the UK Gov return Universal Credit to it's pre-covid payment levels and draconian rules over self-employment. ScotGov have absolutely no control or authority to implement any sort of income-replacement benefit so will have to either allow businesses to open up or leave hundreds of thousands with no income at all. That's plainly something they're not going to do shortly before an election, regardless of any other reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheJTS98 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, anotherchance said: I like NS, but the tone is completely wrong. It’s perfectly reasonable to be cautious with the measures while having a more positive tone, to encourage “one last push” to get the numbers right now down as far as possible and to emphasise how great it is that hospital/ICU numbers are down 60% plus on the most recent peak. People aren’t going to think “f**k it” just by getting a wee bit more hope. Couple of quick questions. If the First Minister frames this as 'one last push', what do you suggest she says if another push is needed later? Also, in that scenario, why would anybody listen to her? 6 hours ago, madwullie said: Panic over lads, the tories have leaked some morphine through the Daily Mail. Incredible. A Tory government leaks a bit of feel-good through a tory-friendly paper, and people lap it up. I'm not sure at what point of Tory lies and backtracking people will stop being prepared to believe them. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest that this timetable should be taken seriously. And what's worse, many people will be extremely upset come July if things don't match it. 'But they TOLD US!' 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Incredible. A Tory government leaks a bit of feel-good through a tory-friendly paper, and people lap it up. I'm not sure at what point of Tory lies and backtracking people will stop being prepared to believe them. There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest that this timetable should be taken seriously. And what's worse, many people will be extremely upset come July if things don't match it. 'But they TOLD US!'Truth is an alien concept to the Tories and the Daily Heil. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, TheJTS98 said: There is absolutely nothing whatsoever to suggest that this timetable should be taken seriously. And what's worse, many people will be extremely upset come July if things don't match it. 'But they TOLD US!' It'll be an attempt by the DM to lead the narrative. If a newspaper tells several hundred thousand people "things will be fine by July" and frames it as a government leak it heaps pressure on BoJo to ensure this is the case. I'm assuming the DM's owners are heavily invested in other industries that would very much benefit from this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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