Coronavirus (COVID-19)

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8 hours ago, 8MileBU said:

Apologies for going slightly off topic but has anyone any experience of funeral protocol during a pandemic? I remember there being a bit of upset about the limited numbers able to attend funerals earlier in the pandemic but unsure what the script is now.

Sadly lost an old school pal last week and his funeral is this weekend. Obviously I understand I won’t be able to attend the funeral service in the chapel because of Covid, but I will pay my respects outside. However, I would like to attend at the cemetery if possible provided the family don’t ask for just immediate family only. Was just wondering if anyone knows whether families/undertakers etc have to ask or are somehow made to limit numbers at cemeteries too because of Covid?

Sorry for your loss, not been to a burial but I can't see it being a problem, maybe be a bit further than 2m away and hang back a bit. Should be able to stand by the road as the  cortège comes in as well

[101]

5 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6800922/lockdown-scotland-travel-restrictions-health-board-council-sturgeon/
 

NS to use health boards instead of council areas for the new tier system. 

Have they published the data that what levels will be decided on yet? 

I actually think that Health Boards makes far more sense than local authorities especially when Test and Protect is being run by health boards but as outbreaks and clusters start to fall there really isn't much for them to do, so perhaps it's a way to get things moving faster if health boards are comfortable with the demand on their services.

Obviously I say this as someone in Fife so it doesn't really make any difference for us.

[Bairnardo]

Case numbers by council just isnt going to work this time around IMO. People in the areas with poorer numbers arent going to continue having their lives restricted whilst watching people in other areas get about it again. Specially not going into the better weather. Theres just no way it's happening like that again.

If stuff isnt open in your local area, you will travel or mix in households. The idea that anyone is going to accept another summer free of socialising whilst vaccines are cigaring their way round the country is nonsense.

[D.V.T.]

A cigar before corn flakes? Why not.

[Bairnardo]

Aye but we need to eliminate the virus and the means that rather than rely on a world beating vaccine, we have to keep pubs and football grounds shut

[super_carson]

1 minute ago, Snafu said:

Known this for a while. Edinburgh needs to get the finger out with vaccinations.

Edinburgh coronavirus vaccine rate shown to be the worst in Scotland

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-coronavirus-vaccine-rate-shown-20058176

'Edinburgh's coronavirus vaccination rate has shown to be the lowest in Scotland, according to the latest figures.

Data published by Public Health Scotland has stated that 30.4 per cent of those in the city have had their first dose of the vaccine, which is currently behind other council areas.

In Glasgow, the figure is 32.4 per cent and in Dundee it is 42.1 per cent.

There are a number of reasons for why a figure could be lower in some areas, such as a younger or healthier population that are lower down in the priority groups.

However, Labour MP for Edinburgh South Ian Murray said he has been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who have said they could dramatically increase rates if more people were offered appointments.

Speaking about the vaccination rates, he said:

“The vaccination figures in Edinburgh are simply not good enough, despite the incredible efforts of all those working hard to provide the jag to residents.

“I’ve been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who are deeply concerned about the delays, and they insist they could comfortably vaccinate more people.

“This needs to be urgently addressed by the Scottish Government, and Edinburgh needs to get its fair share of vaccines.
“Across Scotland we were too slow with vaccine uptake at the start of the rollout, and while we have now caught up with the rest of the UK, Edinburgh cannot be left behind.

“We need to see a dramatic uptick in coverage, so that we can recover from Covid and rebuild following the pandemic.”

It comes as 1,809,158 have now received their first dose of the Covid vaccine across Scotland, after 691 new cases were reported on Wednesday (March 10).'

 

Could explain why our numbers are fluctuating/small rise the last couple days...

[Todd_is_God]

Mental that so many still  think NS is handling the pandemic well.

I'd love to know what they base this opinion on.

[Wee Bully]

Mental that so many still  think NS is handling the pandemic well.
I'd love to know what they base this opinion on.

Lower death rate than England and Wales

[renton]

1 hour ago, djchapsticks said:

That's shite for the likes of Inverclyde who feasibly will have level 0 numbers to be lumped in with Glasgow becuase they are both part of GG&C. 

It just doesn't work. 

Depends on how they weight the sum, I guess, case loads will still be part of it, but being health board gives them an opportunity to make hospital numbers and capacity the major driver.

Not holding my breath that they will of course.

 

[vikingTON]

40 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

Case numbers by council just isnt going to work this time around IMO. People in the areas with poorer numbers arent going to continue having their lives restricted whilst watching people in other areas get about it again. Specially not going into the better weather. Theres just no way it's happening like that again.

If stuff isnt open in your local area, you will travel or mix in households. The idea that anyone is going to accept another summer free of socialising whilst vaccines are cigaring their way round the country is nonsense.

Running it by some gubbins, arbitrary 'health board' doesn't change any of the above. In fact, it only makes people more likely to bin the SG's messages because they've yet again decided to shift the goalposts. If it was acceptable to use council areas without a vaccination program last autumn then it is absolutely acceptable to do so once the vast majority of vulnerable groups are vaccinated. It's that straightforward and no amount of mewling about 'case rates!!!111!!!' in some ward 50 miles away that you're never going to actually visit is going to work. 

Edited March 11, 2021 by vikingTON

[Elixir]

2 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Lower death rate than England and Wales

What an achievement!

It is, however, higher than Sweden, where they didn't coerce their population or self-destruct the fabric of their society and way of life.

[Wee Bully]

What an achievement!
It is, however, higher than Sweden, where they didn't coerce their population or self-destruct the fabric of their society and way of life.

Enjoy your night mate.

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17 minutes ago, D.V.T. said:

 

 

A cigar before corn flakes? Why not.

 

They waited until 80% vaccinated before opening up fully, anyone know when we are expecting to hit 80% of adults double dosed?

ETA I was hoping for a bit earlier than that, 80% seems a high threshold, before releasing everything.

Edited March 11, 2021 by 101

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7 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Maybe we are meant to pray our way to zero covid?

It may have already been posted on here already but I see that 28 faith leaders are taking the SG to court over why the Scottish churches were closed as so many countries around Europe still had them open.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/coronavirus-in-scotland-28-faith-leaders-head-for-court-over-government-decision-to-close-churches-3161418

 

Surely it was god's will to close them?

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

9 hours ago, Elixir said:

The actual state of this bed pishing old c**t. His shadow probably fills him with horror.

 

What an absolute fud. 

6 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said:

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/scottish-news/6800922/lockdown-scotland-travel-restrictions-health-board-council-sturgeon/
 

NS to use health boards instead of council areas for the new tier system. 

Oh great so folks in Inverclyde get punished because people in areas like Pollokshaws East where they are essentially dingying every restriction and cases are high?

9 minutes ago, Wee Bully said:

Lower death rate than England and Wales

Scotland has a higher per 100k rate of the virus now. But if people really think NS has done a good job over this then I have a lump of coal for them. 

[Paco]

Known this for a while. Edinburgh needs to get the finger out with vaccinations.
 

There’s little to worry about there. Edinburgh has the second lowest median age of any council in Scotland, behind Glasgow, so on an age-driven vaccination programme you’d expect them to be in the bottom few at this stage.

Given we’re currently going through JCVI Group 6 which covers 16-64 year olds with underlying conditions, I have no useful data to prove it but to be polite... it doesn’t really surprise me even Glasgow has slowly edged above Edinburgh in recent days. Edinburgh was ahead fairly resolutely until very recently.

The other comparable council area is Aberdeen, which is only just ahead and well within switching places after a good/bad day in either city.

So in summary it’s performing pretty much as you’d expect. It’s right that attention is drawn to it and Ian Murray is doing the job any local MP should by shouting about it. But edging back above Glasgow or Aberdeen in the next few days won’t solve the underlying issue that cities vaccination coverage is uniformly lower across the entire UK, and will be until we start vaccinating younger age groups in the next phase.

[madwullie]

1 hour ago, Honest Saints Fan said:

Nah not my trial. Not had my bloods checked after vaccine yet but should be soon.

Hoping that Astrazeneca, which I had, is different as the 12 weeks interval seems to be the best compared to Pfizer. 

I'd like to know if it's the treatment that causes the issue or the presence of cancer 

[badgertheeuro24witness]

13 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Maybe we are meant to pray our way to zero covid?

It may have already been posted on here already but I see that 28 faith leaders are taking the SG to court over why the Scottish churches were closed as so many countries around Europe still had them open.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/coronavirus-in-scotland-28-faith-leaders-head-for-court-over-government-decision-to-close-churches-3161418

 

Let them pass through their coveted 'heavens' as we fire them into the centre of the sun.

[Left Back]

48 minutes ago, 101 said:

Have they published the data that what levels will be decided on yet? 

I actually think that Health Boards makes far more sense than local authorities especially when Test and Protect is being run by health boards but as outbreaks and clusters start to fall there really isn't much for them to do, so perhaps it's a way to get things moving faster if health boards are comfortable with the demand on their services.

Obviously I say this as someone in Fife so it doesn't really make any difference for us.

Health boards won't get a say in this.  it will be the criteria set by the SG so doesn't matter what they feel comfortable with.

Using health boards as the area for imposing restrictions will restrict more people.  health boards are (mostly) larger population wise.

[Wee Bully]

Scotland has a higher per 100k rate of the virus now. But if people really think NS has done a good job over this then I have a lump of coal for them. 

I thought case numbers were irrelevant, and it was hospitalisations and ICU that mattered?

All I’m looking for is a bit of consistency here...