Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Left Back]

Metro this morning saying England alone is looking to ramp up to 4m jags per week in the second half of the month.  We're around 10% of their population which means we should be looking at 400,000 per week or around 57,000 per day

[coprolite]

4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

There's also no point in posting negative stories about places (particularly batshit mental ones who's leader tells people to "stop whining") with no / few vaccines dished out having a bad time of it.

What point were you making here, that covid kills people?

I understood that the point was that the news coming out of Brazil was not good.

It's probably quite relevant to anybody who knows people in Brazil, works there or just generally takes an interest in what's going on around the world. 

Weird one to get upset by. 

[Steven W]

Also from Sky's rolling coverage.

That looks like news that you could describe as "shit hot!" :-)

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said:

Why though? What was your point?

Have you lost the plot ?

It was a news article on the coronavirus and this is the coronavirus thread, is it not ?

Sorry, so are you saying you only want people to be posting and reading positive articles on here irrespective of the reality of what's happening either here or elsewhere in the world ??

Maybe you should start a new thread where only "good news" can be published and discussed, rather than truth, facts, and reality, if it doesn't suit your particular viewpoint and agenda.

[craigkillie]

1 hour ago, Snafu said:

Known this for a while. Edinburgh needs to get the finger out with vaccinations.

Edinburgh coronavirus vaccine rate shown to be the worst in Scotland

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/edinburgh-coronavirus-vaccine-rate-shown-20058176

'Edinburgh's coronavirus vaccination rate has shown to be the lowest in Scotland, according to the latest figures.

Data published by Public Health Scotland has stated that 30.4 per cent of those in the city have had their first dose of the vaccine, which is currently behind other council areas.

In Glasgow, the figure is 32.4 per cent and in Dundee it is 42.1 per cent.

There are a number of reasons for why a figure could be lower in some areas, such as a younger or healthier population that are lower down in the priority groups.

However, Labour MP for Edinburgh South Ian Murray said he has been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who have said they could dramatically increase rates if more people were offered appointments.

Speaking about the vaccination rates, he said:

“The vaccination figures in Edinburgh are simply not good enough, despite the incredible efforts of all those working hard to provide the jag to residents.

“I’ve been contacted by vaccinators in Edinburgh who are deeply concerned about the delays, and they insist they could comfortably vaccinate more people.

“This needs to be urgently addressed by the Scottish Government, and Edinburgh needs to get its fair share of vaccines.
“Across Scotland we were too slow with vaccine uptake at the start of the rollout, and while we have now caught up with the rest of the UK, Edinburgh cannot be left behind.

“We need to see a dramatic uptick in coverage, so that we can recover from Covid and rebuild following the pandemic.”

It comes as 1,809,158 have now received their first dose of the Covid vaccine across Scotland, after 691 new cases were reported on Wednesday (March 10).'

 

It sounds like it is almost entirely down to Edinburgh having a younger and less vulnerable population. Murray asking for more jags when we know there are the same supply issues across the UK is absolutely pointless.

[Bairnardo]

1 hour ago, virginton said:

Running it by some gubbins, arbitrary 'health board' doesn't change any of the above. In fact, it only makes people more likely to bin the SG's messages because they've yet again decided to shift the goalposts. If it was acceptable to use council areas without a vaccination program last autumn then it is absolutely acceptable to do so once the vast majority of vulnerable groups are vaccinated. It's that straightforward and no amount of mewling about 'case rates!!!111!!!' in some ward 50 miles away that you're never going to actually visit is going to work. 

I should probably have been a bit clearer in that I dont think any tier system with arbitrary borders, be it health board or council, is really going to wash this time around. 

Is anyone really going to get to normality then suddenly accept a tightening of restrictions because Jason leitch has shat it over half a dozen infections at the local fish gutting factory? Are they f**k. 

[Rugster]

1 minute ago, craigkillie said:

It sounds like it is almost entirely down to Edinburgh having a younger and less vulnerable population. Murray asking for more jags when we know there are the same supply issues across the UK is absolutely pointless.

Yes exactly this. A better comparison to see how Edinburgh is doing would be compare the percentage of people in the top 5 categories of the JCVI priority list who have been vaccinated. 

[Left Back]

3 minutes ago, Steven W said:

Also from Sky's rolling coverage.

That looks like news that you could describe as "shit hot!"

If it has to be administered intravenously aren't you already in hospital?

[Todd_is_God]

3 minutes ago, WATTOO said:

Have you lost the plot ?

It was a news article on the coronavirus and this is the coronavirus thread, is it not ?

Sorry, so are you saying you only want people to be posting and reading positive articles on here irrespective of the reality of what's happening either here or elsewhere in the world ??

Maybe you should start a new thread where only "good news" can be published and discussed, rather than truth, facts, and reality, if it doesn't suit your particular viewpoint and agenda.

Dry your knickers and have a Cohiba.

[Guest]

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil

Dear oh dear.

[craigkillie]

9 minutes ago, Left Back said:

Metro this morning saying England alone is looking to ramp up to 4m jags per week in the second half of the month.  We're around 10% of their population which means we should be looking at 400,000 per week or around 57,000 per day

This is in line with the original figures the Scottish government published in Dec/Jan, I think.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, craigkillie said:

This is in line with the original figures the Scottish government published in Dec/Jan, I think.

This was mentioned at FM questions, they didn't give specific figures but DID say that they would be massively ramping up as per the expected supplies.

[charger29]

Couple of questions:
- Is death date the only metric for how successful a government has been during the pandemic? That seems a wildly narrow viewpoint as it ignores a multitude of other incredibly important issues (mental health impact, economy etc) they should have been balancing risk against.
- Are we only allowed to compare ourselves to other U.K. nations? Can we not compare against any of the other vast number of countries to evaluate how we have performed? Again seems an incredibly narrow viewpoint to take.

We can try and compare ourselves against other countries outside of the UK but there are obviously issues in doing so. If the Scottish Parliament don't have control over a lot of important decisions then it's never going to be a fair comaprison.

[Detournement]

29 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

Leitch-esque levels of irrelevant

It's irrelevant that the pandemic is wreaking havoc in the sixth most populous country in the world?

 

[101]

2 minutes ago, Detournement said:

It's irrelevant that the pandemic is wreaking havoc in the sixth most populous country in the world?

 

Also a county that sees 150,000+ Brits travel a year and likely to be similar number in bordering countries which will also be nervous about how shit things are in Brazil.

Very difficult to let foreign travel go completely open, which we all want asap, if countries are having a torid time of their vaccine roll out. Just now you would say Africa and South America are out in terms of unrestricted travel.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

57 minutes ago, Detournement said:

That's twice you have mentioned Pollockshaws East over the past few days now. Typical cop. 

Youre a nut case, its the area with the highest prevalence of the virus in the heathboard area according to the reporting ive read. 

Edited March 11, 2021 by Inanimate Carbon Rod

[Todd_is_God]

13 minutes ago, charger29 said:

We can try and compare ourselves against other countries outside of the UK but there are obviously issues in doing so. If the Scottish Parliament don't have control over a lot of important decisions then it's never going to be a fair comaprison.

The biggest, of course, being the comparisons are largely unfavourable...

Edited March 11, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[Detournement]

4 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

Youre a nut case, its the area with the highest prevalence of the virus in the heathboard area according to the reporting ive read. 

You said people are "dingying every restriction" which implies more than just having read health board info.

Higher levels there could be done to occupational trends and housing density rather than not following rules. 

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

4 minutes ago, Detournement said:

You said people are "dingying every restriction" which implies more than just having read health board info.

Higher levels there could be done to occupational trends and housing density rather than not following rules. 

Youre just desperately trying to frame me as racist when the exact opposite is true. Yes so I was flippant in saying dingying every restriction, yes there are more multi generational family homes in that area but there are also high concentrations in areas neighbouring that area too which dont have anywhere near the rates. You also referred to my earlier post about the concern that my wife had read from doctors who are from the asian community that people may refuse the vaccine if it coincides with a period of fasting. 

[Left Back]

44 minutes ago, Steven W said:

From Sky News' rolling coverage

 

Interesting the "Important" caveat that they've used there. They've never felt the need to do it with all their previous scaremongering stories.

the EMA are saying there have been a total of 22 thromboembolic events across the 3m people in Europe that have been given AZ and that it's in line with the same number of events for the general population.

https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/news/covid-19-vaccine-astrazeneca-prac-preliminary-view-suggests-no-specific-issue-batch-used-austria