101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 I knew this thread was serious business but I didn't realise it was quite as serious are searching back nearly a month's worth of posts It won't be long until folk start "resigning" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, 101 said: Get ready for a truncheon in the face. I'm going with 9 others which is forbidden as we are from 4 households but we should all have been vaccinated and tbh I think London will be more interested in getting the coin than the last week of restrictions. There is no chance they could stop it going ahead unless they cancelled the game. We haven't booked our travel, hopefully getting the train down but the demand will be crazy. Aye there’s 6/7 of us going but all separate households. I managed to get return flights to Heathrow for £80 about 10 mins after Marshall delivered the #scenes. Same flights were about £280 in the morning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, DMCs said: There will be loads of folk going down. I got flights down myself but some people I know were booking the sleeper trains for it months ago and they were selling out very quickly. I would say about 50,000 I know about 30 folk going and they all seem to know about similar numbers. See you there 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Just now, Scosha said: Aye there’s 6/7 of us going but all separate households. I managed to get return flights to Heathrow for £80 about 10 mins after Marshall delivered the #scenes. Same flights were about £280 in the morning You guys hotel or AirBnB? We have a garden on our rented house so even if the pubs have a limit we will get bevied in the garden and then head into town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Jesus wept. Think I must have rubbed someone up the wrong way - in your usual I'll try and pick on one poster act. Comparing an it's going to be over in 3 and half months prediction to a date in 3 weeks time. I think you'll find that the SG has also set dates throughout roadmap for sectors to open up in the months for come. For some strange reason, this has not been treated with the harrumphing tantrums launched at the Westminster government for doing the exact same thing three weeks ago, based on the same set of basic facts. Quote The constant theme of today was those dates are intentions but that it will depend on the data. Everything was qualified today - as it should be. Or did you miss that? The UK Government's dates are also qualified intentions, so the fundamental difference between the two roadmaps on this point is zero. You can either insist on 'data not dates!!!!' or you can sign up to the SG's roadmap. You can't have it both ways and treat the SG's as credible while slating the one south of the border for setting arbitrary dates though. Edited March 16, 2021 by vikingTON 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 1 minute ago, virginton said: I think you'll find that the SG has also set dates throughout roadmap for sectors to open up in the months for come. For some strange reason, this has not been treated with the harrumphing tantrums ať the Westminster government for doing the exact same thing. The UK Government's dates are also qualified intentions, so the fundamental difference between the two roadmaps is zero. You can either insist on 'data not dates!!!!' or you can sign up the SG's roadmap. You can't have it both ways though and treat the SG's as miraculously more credible than the one you were slating south of the border. Aye - it was just a coincidence that mid-summer's day was selected. As was the "no earlier" than qualification that they knew would be ignored and read as "happens by". If the Scottish Government were being populist they would surely be trying to open up before England - that clearly is not the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, 101 said: You guys hotel or AirBnB? We have a garden on our rented house so even if the pubs have a limit we will get bevied in the garden and then head into town. Premier Inn, about a mile away from Trafalgar Square. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mizfit Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Premier Inn, about a mile away from Trafalgar Square. We’re the same I think. Still not booked travel as we were holding off to see what happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 How did Paulo react to the briefing today? She seemed to punt the whole question of international travel and indeed cross-border travel back in the UK Government's court . I read it that they've reined in from having unenforceable different travel restrictions for Scotland? Not that it affects me - still looking at an October holiday given that my wife's second operation is not due until 8 April and she won't get radiology until 2 months down the line. I also want to go when most things are opened up, not a holiday with lots of restrictions in place - you would think by mid-October that would be the case. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Golden God Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Can’t wait for every beer garden to be fully booked on the 26th only for it to be absolutely chucking it down 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Aye - it was just a coincidence that mid-summer's day was selected. As was the "no earlier" than qualification that they knew would be ignored and read as "happens by". Erm yes, because the Scottish Government have clearly spent this afternoon telling the media to never in any way treat its reopening qualification as 'happens on/by'. That message is coming across loud and clear! Quote If the Scottish Government were being populist they would surely be trying to open up before England - that clearly is not the case. If you're a moron, sure you would think that. In reality, the SG's M.O. all along has been to: a) complain about whatever Westminster is doing as being horrendously unsafe only to b) hum and haw before doing the same thing and just shifting a couple of dates/targets/criteria. This is an absolutely textbook case-study of the SG's response, and it works politically because people want mealy-mouthed platitudes to show that Nicola cares more before they open up. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Receptions with up to 50 people are allowed, though, from 26th April.Apologies. I've not seen the details - they don't really bother so much with "Jockistani" affairs down here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 A big shift in tone from NS today. She got carried away! It was great to see and listen to. The LA travel restrictions being dumped wasn't something I seen coming (although I note given they were made law, come April 26th will that law be officially ended?). Think I'm right in saying small scale indoor and outdoor events can take place from 17th May. After such a positive afternoon, I've no wish to pick holes, and presumably details will be thrashed out between now and then, but that is open to all sorts of interpretation. Time will tell I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted March 16, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted March 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Aye - it was just a coincidence that mid-summer's day was selected. As was the "no earlier" than qualification that they knew would be ignored and read as "happens by". If the Scottish Government were being populist they would surely be trying to open up before England - that clearly is not the case. The Scottish Government have done the exact same thing though. Three weeks ago there was a mantra of "data, not dates", and they went as far as to produce a set of criteria for a Level system. Fastforward to today, and there was very little data mentioned, but plenty of dates, and the Level system was conspicious by its absence, given that everyone will be moving at the same time. I think this is the right approach, I'm not criticising it, but I do think it is funny to see people who were playing the "reckless Tories" card now applauding what is basically an identical approach here. 20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 31 minutes ago, Scosha said: Premier Inn, about a mile away from Trafalgar Square. Aye so pretty much not matter what you guys will be fine hopefully we won't be in bother for having a house full 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibsFan Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Paco said: In my experience of the two-hour slot last summer (Edinburgh), it was only policed when there were more bookings ready to take your place. Likewise pubs wouldn’t turn you away if you didn’t have a booking but they had space. Seems the industry asked for it on this occasion. My assumption is that it’s easier to handle capacity, and increases spend. A group of four guys might rattle through five or six pints in a two-hour slot, but are unlikely to keep going at the same pace for the next two hours. It’s a pain in the arse as a customer though. I presume the Scottish government are under no illusions that the shithole old-man pubs of Fraserburgh, Fallin and Falkirk aren’t turfing the old jakeys out of their empty pub every two hours. It's a pain in the arse for staff too. I really hope "booking" for a pub dies a death before the end of 2021 otherwise that's shifted the pub-going experience permanently towards some sort of middle class restauranteur nightmare. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Fabulous seeing VikingTons utter seeth. I’m sitting here drinking his salty salty tears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 Hopefully by NS mentioning only "enhanced hand washing" as a required NPI to enable them to keep Coronavirus at bay after June that means that they are prepared to follow England in ditching masks and SD as soon as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) The Scottish Government have done the exact same thing though. Three weeks ago there was a mantra of "data, not dates", and they went as far as to produce a set of criteria for a Level system. Fastforward to today, and there was very little data mentioned, but plenty of dates, and the Level system was conspicious by its absence, given that everyone will be moving at the same time. I think this is the right approach, I'm not criticising it, but I do think it is funny to see people who were playing the "reckless Tories" card now applauding what is basically an identical approach here. They were criticised 3 weeks ago, quite rightly, for having absolutely no vision of where they wanted to be - let's be honest - it seems they are actually listening and having the adult conversations that everyone wanted. You also have to remember that the data not dates mantra was also what the UK Government were stating - and had apparently intended to stick by until Johnson ditched it at the last minute - that's why people reacted how they did.I said at the time that we needed a to be somewhere between what I felt was Johnson's overoptimistic tone and Sturgeon's over-cautious tone.As for today - discussions with the Island authorities was something that actually surprised me given the naturally controlling tendencies of the Scottish Government. I think what also surprised me - and surprised people here was that the actual tone of the statement - even I have been somewhat disheartened by some of the negativity. Edited March 16, 2021 by DeeTillEhDeh -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Dufresne Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Forest_Fifer said: That's me jabbed with Astra Zeneca. I'll let you know if I get a blood cl- My wife had a reaction to the jab today,i had to come home from work to pick up the kids from school and my boss was a knob about it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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