Mark Connolly Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 hour ago, dirty dingus said: How the f**k do you get to half these places? Is it by an RAF Hercules and you get flung out with a parachute? Genuinely thought this referred to all the chat about Elgin 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 51 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Would imagine maybe face masks still to wear? It would be the most predictable thing for the restriction which makes least difference to be the last one to go 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 43 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: That hasn't been the issue though if the Radio Scotland pundits stance is to be believed. They seem adamant that the SFA are "comitted" (possibly contracted) to having the final at Hampden. If that's not the issue the clubs and the SFA need to tell us otherwise. If there's a will there can easily be a solution. Not sure what issue travel would be given that's not been restricted for a good few weeks now. It's a cup final, there are no "away" fans ! Depending where it is held there are two sets of "away" fans. With the current restriction level travel shouldn't be an issue, I agree, but with Clownshoes making specific reference to small numbers of travelling fans "maybe" being allowed into grounds in September then I think it's perfectly fair to assume that there would be some sort of restrictions on travelling fans in May. It would be ludicrous to allow St. Johnstone and Hibs fans to travel to (for example) Aberdeen on the 22nd of May, and then ban Ayr fans visiting Dumfries in August because they don't know if it will be safe. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 stats all over the place today with IT issues, looks like will be another increase once all is counted tho 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 And dogging.Drive in events permitted at level 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: stats all over the place today with IT issues, looks like will be another increase once all is counted tho 6 people were in intensive care yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 70 people were in hospital yesterday with recently confirmed COVID-19 Sounds reasonable. Edited May 11, 2021 by Distant Doonhamer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod1877 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: Depending where it is held there are two sets of "away" fans. With the current restriction level travel shouldn't be an issue, I agree, but with Clownshoes making specific reference to small numbers of travelling fans "maybe" being allowed into grounds in September then I think it's perfectly fair to assume that there would be some sort of restrictions on travelling fans in May. It would be ludicrous to allow St. Johnstone and Hibs fans to travel to (for example) Aberdeen on the 22nd of May, and then ban Ayr fans visiting Dumfries in August because they don't know if it will be safe. Since this is the second time you've asserted this, I wonder where you heard/saw him say it. In the 5 minutes that I heard of Off the Ball on Saturday, in response to a question about fans travelling to games, he explicitly stated that any restrictions on travelling fans (in the absence of more general travel restrictions) would not be imposed by government. However, if there continued to be limits on capacity, he suggested that clubs might choose to give preference to local fans. That would be their decision though, rather than one imposed by the government. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 27 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: stats all over the place today with IT issues, looks like will be another increase once all is counted tho Listening to the radio yesterday afternoon and the public health professor who was on was arguing caution (predictably). When asked about the fact that deaths were so low, and hospitalisations low, guess what the reply was. Cases numbers remain high so there will be variations, vaccine crushing variants, your granny will die and the pubs shut for ever more...that at least was the gist. All about "case numbers" now for these guys. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) It's depressing as f**k that we confirmed restrictions in August for football. People celebrating because the government has given us permission to hug or have strictly limited visitors is another bad sign. Edited May 11, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rod1877 said: Since this is the second time you've asserted this, I wonder where you heard/saw him say it. In the 5 minutes that I heard of Off the Ball on Saturday, in response to a question about fans travelling to games, he explicitly stated that any restrictions on travelling fans (in the absence of more general travel restrictions) would not be imposed by government. However, if there continued to be limits on capacity, he suggested that clubs might choose to give preference to local fans. That would be their decision though, rather than one imposed by the government. I was referring to comments made in this article https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jason-leitch-forewarns-the-big-24019105 This was prior to his most recent appearance, granted, but gives the impression that, whilst not implicitly banning it, they really don't want travelling fans in grounds at the start of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Guidance now live on gov.scot and as it stands at this time, snooker/pool halls are showing both as open and closed in level 2. [emoji23]https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-protection-levels/pages/protection-level-2/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, H Wragg said: Guidance now live on gov.scot and as it stands at this time, snooker/pool halls are showing both as open and closed in level 2. https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-protection-levels/pages/protection-level-2/ Presumably it's pot luck whether they can open. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Billy Jean King Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Depending where it is held there are two sets of "away" fans. With the current restriction level travel shouldn't be an issue, I agree, but with Clownshoes making specific reference to small numbers of travelling fans "maybe" being allowed into grounds in September then I think it's perfectly fair to assume that there would be some sort of restrictions on travelling fans in May. It would be ludicrous to allow St. Johnstone and Hibs fans to travel to (for example) Aberdeen on the 22nd of May, and then ban Ayr fans visiting Dumfries in August because they don't know if it will be safe.Going by what NS said today restrictions next season will be irrelevant. If SD goes then crowd restrictions by definition go with them.No reason at all why the SFA cannot organise a venue for a restricted attendance match still 11 days away if the will was there, quite simply it isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Pool halls open 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Going by what NS said today restrictions next season will be irrelevant. If SD goes then crowd restrictions by definition go with them. No reason at all why the SFA cannot organise a venue for a restricted attendance match still 11 days away if the will was there, quite simply it isn't. I'm not disagreeing that it could be done. Merely reflecting (again) that the recent mood music from the SG has consequences. Had the SG all but confirmed (privately) to the SFA that the SC Final could host fans up to 25% capacity a few weeks ago then I'm almost certain that either something would have been worked out with UEFA to allow fans into Hampden (at least in the North, East and West Stands) or an alternative venue would have been sourced to facilitate this. I get the impression that the private messaging from the SG is identical to the public messaging, which, ultimately will lead to the public missing out on things which are allowed by the time the planned date comes round. The Cup Final is just the first example of this, there will be more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Had the SG all but confirmed (privately) to the SFA that the SC Final could host fans up to 25% capacity a few weeks ago then I'm almost certain that either something would have been worked out with UEFA to allow fans into Hampden (at least in the North, East and West Stands) or an alternative venue would have been sourced to facilitate this Problem is that this may of been happening it was for the folk running the event to contact the local authority with a proposal of a capacity and this would then be taken to the SG, this has been the case since the revised levels were published. The SFA appear to not to have bothered with this leg work as UEFA would be using the stadium and Hearts, Celtic and Rangers have all said their grounds are unavailable and as far as anyone can tell the SFA stopped here. Now had the SFA not had previous for being completely hopeless than you could understand them pleading ignorance but imo their handling of this has been nothing short of abject the perfect venue considering the lack of folk that will be able to attend is imo Tannadice. But regardless of venue let's hope we don't follow the FAs ridiculous rule that you have to travel in a club coach and pay over the odds for the pleasure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 This Torygraph article highlights bit by bit just how fucking useless these gubbins modelers are: Honestly, they have zero credibility and their 'field' should be recognised as being in the smouldering ruin of pointlessness that it is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlipperyP Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 2 hours ago, The Moonster said: Now that the virus has been cigared into insignificance, I think this thread should be renamed "The P&B Sandwich Island Orgy Thread" and we can discuss the real issues at hand. Eh, really, small island, small minded. all about you. I believe this thread started when a virus started in China (nothing to do with the UK/SCO), let's hope the rest of the world can get/buy/steal/pray for some vaccines and catch up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 1 minute ago, 101 said: Problem is that this may of been happening it was for the folk running the event to contact the local authority with a proposal of a capacity and this would then be taken to the SG, this has been the case since the revised levels were published. The SFA appear to not to have bothered with this leg work as UEFA would be using the stadium and Hearts, Celtic and Rangers have all said their grounds are unavailable and as far as anyone can tell the SFA stopped here. Now had the SFA not had previous for being completely hopeless than you could understand them pleading ignorance but imo their handling of this has been nothing short of abject the perfect venue considering the lack of folk that will be able to attend is imo Tannadice. But regardless of venue let's hope we don't follow the FAs ridiculous rule that you have to travel in a club coach and pay over the odds for the pleasure. Or they did, and LA's reported back that the SG were unwilling to commit to anything greater than 500 prior to today. Which would be in line with their approach to date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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