welshbairn Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Empty It said: 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Flu vaccines have never been recommended for under 65s who don't work in health or social care before, so you've hardly been a rebel. So why do so many people outwith your criteria get offered the flu vaccine? Until now they haven't been offered free on the NHS to beyond the over 65s and restricted categories. If firms have been offering them to employees that's something different. Edited November 9, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 16 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Until now they haven't been offered free on the NHS to beyond the over 65s and restricted categories. If firms have been offering them to employees that's something different. The above is a bit of a change from the below 2 hours ago, welshbairn said: Flu vaccines have never been recommended for under 65s who don't work in health or social care before, so you've hardly been a rebel. There were a lot of "restricted categories" as you're now admitting that cover millions of people under 65. https://www.sehd.scot.nhs.uk/cmo/CMO(2019)11.pdf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Left Back said: The above is a bit of a change from the below There were a lot of "restricted categories" as you're now admitting that cover millions of people under 65. https://www.sehd.scot.nhs.uk/cmo/CMO(2019)11.pdf I'm confused now, thought you were agreeing with me. I missed out the vulnerable under 65s but that's about it. Edited November 9, 2021 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Because that's working wonders over in Ireland and across the continent! Meanwhile in England... oh wait, better not mention that. Who is he kidding with talk of 'heading off future lockdowns'? The Scottish Government can't lockdown shit now the furlough tap has dried up. Clown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, welshbairn said: I'm confused now, thought you were agreeing with me. No. Your initial position and statement that flu vaccines have never been recommended to under 65's who don't work in healthcare is patently wrong and you were called out for it. You then changed your position to "restricted categories", probably to imply it was a small number of people. It's not restricted categories at all. It's at-risk groups which covers millions of people across the UK. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 minute ago, Elixir said: Because that's working wonders over in Ireland and across the continent! Meanwhile in England... oh wait, better not mention that. Who is he kidding with talk of 'heading off future lockdowns'? The Scottish Government can't lockdown shit now the furlough tap has dried up. Clown. SG have a massive hard on for masks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) Deputy First Minister John Swinney tells MSPs that the most recent peak in new cases was around the start of September, and that since the spread of Covid has not reduced. He says the number of new cases is "holding at a concerningly high level", and he has reason to suspect case numbers may further increase in the weeks ahead. Because of this, he says he "cannot rule out strengthening the baseline protective measures" to "head off any prospect of future lockdowns". Measures the Scottish government are considering include: extending the Covid certification scheme (vaccine passports) to more indoor hospitality and leisure settings seeing how ventilation can be improved seeing how home working can be increased and seeing whether the use of face masks can be extended. Edited November 9, 2021 by Lyle Lanley 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 The lengths the SG are going to go to to save face is incredible. Yet still the simps will vote for them for eternity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just now, Todd_is_God said: The lengths the SG are going to go to to save face is incredible. Yet still the simps will vote for them for eternity. Just hope they don't even dare to put any restrictions back in place. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 I hate them so much. Embarrassing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 04/11/2021 at 13:24, Todd_is_God said: On 04/11/2021 at 14:54, Michael W said: What he really means there is that this vaccine passport he says doesn't work will be rolled out more widely. When this happens, it will be completely overlooked that a SG Minister ever said such a thing, and bewilderment will follow when the increased use of vaccine passports doesn't result in a marked drop in case figures. No apology will be made for keeping people safe through implementing measures that do no such thing. Standard Swinney. A bald, speccy tube. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Elixir said: Because that's working wonders over in Ireland and across the continent! Meanwhile in England... oh wait, better not mention that. Who is he kidding with talk of 'heading off future lockdowns'? The Scottish Government can't lockdown shit now the furlough tap has dried up. Clown. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Michael W said: Standard Swinney. A catastrophically bald, speccy tube. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 The prospect of an extension to Scotland’s vaccine passport scheme will be of “significant concern” to the hospitality industry, Daniel Johnson warns. The Labour MSP says Mr Swinney suggesting it was a possibility was unfair on the trade given the controversy surrounding the introduction of the scheme. Mr Swinney says the Scottish government judgement on any extension will be “driven by the pandemic” with infection rates and hospitalisations key. The deputy first minister says the idea of being able to offer proof a negative lateral flow test for entry into hospitality venues is under consideration. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 13 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: The prospect of an extension to Scotland’s vaccine passport scheme will be of “significant concern” to the hospitality industry, Daniel Johnson warns. The Labour MSP says Mr Swinney suggesting it was a possibility was unfair on the trade given the controversy surrounding the introduction of the scheme. Mr Swinney says the Scottish government judgement on any extension will be “driven by the pandemic” with infection rates and hospitalisations key. The deputy first minister says the idea of being able to offer proof a negative lateral flow test for entry into hospitality venues is under consideration. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTee Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Any time I see this chart, the 15 to 24 age group is always quite low compared to the groups either side. Thought this age bracket would be mixing a fair bit. Surprised to see this trend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, GTee said: Any time I see this chart, the 15 to 24 age group is always quite low compared to the groups either side. Thought this age bracket would be mixing a fair bit. Surprised to see this trend. When you take relative population sizes into account, there isn't much difference in the 15-64 age group (which is fair to assume is the majority age group out working and mixing). School kids, unsurprisingly, stand on top of the podium as they have less vaccine coverage amongst them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: When you take relative population sizes into account, there isn't much difference in the 15-64 age group (which is fair to assume is the majority age group out working and mixing). School kids, unsurprisingly, stand on top of the podium as they have less vaccine coverage amongst them. Mixing is a big factor as well. 95%+ kids are at school 5 days a week with 30 odd hours of close contact compared to the large number of adults who are still sleeping or watching Lorraine when the school bell goes. Kids live in bigger households too. Edited November 9, 2021 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Mrs got the blue letter today for her booster one ( type 1 diabetic) . Anyway her appointment is for Monday... at 5.30pm in Blairgowrie. Being based in Dundee this is a bit shit. Wee phone call and hopefully changed. Wife got hers on Saturday 6th for Sunday 7th - we were away all weekend at a wedding so she couldn't even cancel and rearrange. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Just a few hundred 16-39 year olds getting 1st vaccines every day now. Clearly clubbing or late summer holidays never enticed the 150 thousand who have declined the vaccine. Wonder if bars, cafés and cinemas probably being added next Tuesday will get them out queuing?I have my doubts. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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