williemillersmoustache Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 5 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: Is there a P&B equivalent site in England? With the Blessed Boris reintroducing masks in shops and public transport in England, I hope he's ready for the onslaught of abuse he's going to receive as a result. The "FACE MASKS = TYRANNY" crowd on twitter are quite fun. Could be the end or at least another nail in the coffin for Johnson as the libertarian/ERG/CRG brexit-jihadi clackwankers are furious about freedom, or some other such hysterical drivel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrWorldwideJr Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, williemillersmoustache said: The "FACE MASKS = TYRANNY" crowd on twitter are quite fun. Could be the end or at least another nail in the coffin for Johnson as the libertarian/ERG/CRG brexit-jihadi clackwankers are furious about freedom, or some other such hysterical drivel. If think there's two seperate things going on here. Obviously wearing a face mask isn't the end of the world for most people and its fair to say that compared to pretty much any intervention they could have brought in its got the lowest cost and getting wound up over them being tyranny or whatever is wild. However, I think its fair to question whether bringing back face masks in such a limited range of settings is actually going to make any meaningful difference. I think thats a seperate discussion but it tends to get swept up with the 'haha, the moonhowlers are calling masks muzzles again' and treated as if the two things are one and the same. This feels a lot more like bringing something small in to soften up people to the idea that larger restrictions might have to come back rather than a measure that will actually make a significant difference on its own. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Facemasks are just a step towards other restrictions. They didn't do anything here so we now have the Digital ID prohibitions. They did f**k all in Germany and Austria as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, MrWorldwideJr said: If think there's two seperate things going on here. Obviously wearing a face mask isn't the end of the world for most people and its fair to say that compared to pretty much any intervention they could have brought in its got the lowest cost and getting wound up over them being tyranny or whatever is wild. However, I think its fair to question whether bringing back face masks in such a limited range of settings is actually going to make any meaningful difference. I think thats a seperate discussion but it tends to get swept up with the 'haha, the moonhowlers are calling masks muzzles again' and treated as if the two things are one and the same. This feels a lot more like bringing something small in to soften up people to the idea that larger restrictions might have to come back rather than a measure that will actually make a significant difference on its own. I think that's fair but the leaders of the no masks gang like JHB, Toby Young, Shipman and the like are going hard on the civil liberties angle while I think the UK governments messaging and example on masks has been shamefully weak, confusing or clearly hypocritical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, MrWorldwideJr said: I think its fair to question whether bringing back face masks in such a limited range of settings is actually going to make any meaningful difference I noticed on Andrew Marr this morning Javid avoided giving the obvious answer as to why they were required in shops and public transport but not pubs and restaurants. That answer, of course, being "because people could take them off for 95% of the time they are in pubs and restaurants so it would be pointless." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Every virus in history has evolved and mutated to be more transmissible. Every virus has also become less dangerous as this happens. So expect omicron will be dominant everywhere worldwide within a few months.The x-ray variant when it evolves in Belarus or wherever in June or whenever next year will follow the same path.A few unfortunate people will continue to die and we should all possibly be offered new boosters in line with the flu vaccine. Etc etc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Every virus in history has evolved and mutated to be more transmissible. Every virus has also become less dangerous as this happens. So expect omicron will be dominant everywhere worldwide within a few months.The x-ray variant when it evolves in Belarus or wherever in June or whenever next year will follow the same path.A few unfortunate people will continue to die and we should all possibly be offered new boosters in line with the flue vaccine. Etc etc Gaslighting IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Snafu said: SARS viruses have a funny habit of mutating themselves into extinction, like SARS-CoV-1. How are the Alpha and Kent variants getting on now, it quickly all gets forgotten about? As noted in Japan the Delta which now almost gone from there was dominant and was very good at preventing other variants from taking hold. In the UK while Delta is still dominant it seems therefore unlikely the 'moronic' variant will take hold in such numbers to create a wave of infections. This has never happened before while there is a dominant variant doing the rounds. We do appear very good at tracking and tracing these variants now. Best hope is that Omicron is wildly infectious, elbowing out Delta, but relatively harmless even if it evades the vaccine. Then it's show over apart from a regular booster for the elderly and vulnerable like the flu vaccine. Here's hoping! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Don’t you dare even think about putting any restrictions back in place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 I’ve not read the story, it’s probably a gross misrepresentation but this tweet made me laugh out loud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: I noticed on Andrew Marr this morning Javid avoided giving the obvious answer as to why they were required in shops and public transport but not pubs and restaurants. That answer, of course, being "because people could take them off for 95% of the time they are in pubs and restaurants so it would be pointless." Also worth pointing out that the extremely vulnerable have the option of avoiding hospitality, whereas they may need to attend shops and trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Donathan said: Also worth pointing out that the extremely vulnerable have the option of avoiding hospitality, whereas they may need to attend shops and trains. I don't dispute that, however I don't think that's the main reason. Masks to walk to your table to then remove them until it is leaving time is pure theatre, and this decision appears, at least, to be a nod towards acknowledging this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: I don't dispute that, however I don't think that's the main reason. Masks to walk to your table to then remove them until it is leaving time is pure theatre, and this decision appears, at least, to be a nod towards acknowledging this. Personally I think masks in shops is also theatre. Don't think anyone is spreading covid just by walking past someone in a shop. Public transport is more sensible as it's reasonable to assume you might catch covid by sitting next to an infected person for a prolonged period on a bus, for example. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PedroMoutinho Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 44 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: Don’t you dare even think about putting any restrictions back in place. It’s back to the ‘I’ll do anything to keep people safe’ shite by the looks of it 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaboz Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I'm so sick of people freaking out about it now. The wife has a colleague who was meant to come for dinner tomorrow but us now shiting it because NEWVARIANT. Apparently she's away to visit her elderly mother a week after and wants to reduce the risk.Just go f**k off then. We even just got a negative test result yesterday as we can get them free again here. But apparently its normal to get scared out your wits about something THAT WE DONT HAVE. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Aldo Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Lyle Lanley said: Don’t you dare even think about putting any restrictions back in place. She does herself no favours with these sorts of comments. Little is known about this variant at the moment and talking of the "need to go further" and "doing anything to keep the population safe" just sounds ridiculous until all the facts are known. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 30 minutes ago, PedroMoutinho said: It’s back to the ‘I’ll do anything to keep people safe’ shite by the looks of it Aye good luck shutting things down with no furlough available. Empty rhetoric. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Tynie Wickfield said: Aye good luck shutting things down with no furlough available. Empty rhetoric. But she needs to be seen to care moar!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 The British policy not double jagging teenagers now starting to have impact elsewhere.Spanish not letting anyone in full stop over 12 from 1st December unless fully vaccinated. Jet2 pussbook funny as f**k with the Spanish can't do this fury. Like the UK is centre of the world.Prediction amidst all this. JCVI wait 2 days so it appears not to be under political influence. (Aye right your not)Then all teens to now be double jagged.Probably followed by all 5-12 year olds 1st jag.Boosters for all finally. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 35 minutes ago, Stellaboz said: I'm so sick of people freaking out about it now. The wife has a colleague who was meant to come for dinner tomorrow but us now shiting it because NEWVARIANT. Apparently she's away to visit her elderly mother a week after and wants to reduce the risk. Just go f**k off then. We even just got a negative test result yesterday as we can get them free again here. But apparently its normal to get scared out your wits about something THAT WE DONT HAVE. I take it your wife’s colleague is tidy af. I’d be delighted they called it off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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