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^^^you may not realise why posting that is a bit crass but best to remember that there are people on here who have actually been through that recently.

Despite all the fearmongering by politicians and the media the data from South Africa to date points to omicron being far milder than delta and quite possibly the beginning of the end for COVID-19 as a major public health issue at least for now if variants like omicron can continue to outcompete the more virulent ones on transmissibility. A bit like H1N1 influenza after 1918 though it will likely always be out there like a Sword of Damocles waiting for immunity levels to dwindle as a younger generation emerges with no exposure to it.

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4 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

We had that.

It was the Louisa Jordan.

They had them in England too.

But they kept covid patients in the main hospitals anyway.

Probably because there was no-one to staff the Louisa Jordans.  Can buy as many beds and equipment as you want.  Can’t service them without trained staff.

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5 hours ago, Kima Greggs said:

Liz doing her bit.

Detournement will be raging.

 

5 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:

Zahawi this morning saying a person double jabbed with AZ has only 25% protection against severe illness with Omicron. Is it that poor ???

Err, no. Symptomatic illness. Obviously they will continue to prevent a very high percentage of severe illness.

 

4 hours ago, Kima Greggs said:

My work have just cancelled our Xmas night out due to the 'advice' on Friday.

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Look at us*

 

2 hours ago, oaksoft said:

I think what's happening here is that she desperately wants to be important, to be seen as important and to be revered as important.

She's getting a lot of media attention and plenty of people are fan-girling her but what she really wants is the attention and respect of her peers and governments.

She's getting ignored by both and is getting progressively more angry about it.

So we have these tantrums about the government, tantrums about her colleagues where she disrespects all of those who don't agree with her and worse of all, she wraps her frustration in a soothing blanket of barely concealed insinuations that misogyny is what's keeping her from achieving the respect she craves.

IMO, it's a classic case of someone being outside the circle with her nose pressed up against the window, desperate to be noticed and invited inside. It's fucking tragic to watch someone publicly display all of that inner insecurity on a daily basis.

If she thinks this set of tactics will give her the respect she craves,. she's going to be very disappointed.

Her husband is an utter bam as well. Sure they have a bairn. Poor child.

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I think what's happening here is that she desperately wants to be important, to be seen as important and to be revered as important.
She's getting a lot of media attention and plenty of people are fan-girling her but what she really wants is the attention and respect of her peers and governments.
She's getting ignored by both and is getting progressively more angry about it.
So we have these tantrums about the government, tantrums about her colleagues where she disrespects all of those who don't agree with her and worse of all, she wraps her frustration in a soothing blanket of barely concealed insinuations that misogyny is what's keeping her from achieving the respect she craves.
IMO, it's a classic case of someone being outside the circle with her nose pressed up against the window, desperate to be noticed and invited inside. It's fucking tragic to watch someone publicly display all of that inner insecurity on a daily basis.
If she thinks this set of tactics will give her the respect she craves,. she's going to be very disappointed.
^^^ Projection, much?
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Is it not the job of government to protect the NHS and provide a fit for purpose service that we already pay for via the highest tax rates in the UK? Failure on their part should not result in unnecessary restictions on the population. 
If the NHS is not fit for purpose may we need another of the First Minister' famous adult conversations about how best to fund and provide health services in Scotland. 
At this stage in the pandemic shutting bars, restaurants and limiting the scope for people to meet should be a million miles away from Cabinet considerations. 
 
 
Just look at the absolute cluster f**k that the SG has made in terms of the Ambulance service it is now common to be waiting for minimum of 5/6 hours for an ambulance.

They have made an absolute fucking mess of it and are doing f**k all to sort it. When it comes to healthcare we are now pretty much a third world country.
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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

Oh for goodness sakes. Can we not be a bit more adult than this????

An ICU is an ICU.

The important thing is to have kept covid patients well away from general hospitals.

The problem you have with this is yes you can absolutely take Covid patients to the Lousia Jordan or similar if their breathing is fucked and need ventilation or whatever what is harder to do is someone is in a car crash has Covid unbeknownst to them and eventually needs complex care. 

I think it's always been important ot understand those in hospital primarily due to Covid and those in hospital with something else and Covid, of course they could then develop a more serious condition due to Covid but would you then move them? Probably not.

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Bit of a harsh reminder about Covid here after speaking with my neighbour there.  Rather than the usual "yeah, keeping busy", I got "just back from my mother's funeral, now getting ready for my 28yo nephew's funeral who'd been on a respirator for two months since catching Covid" (I paraphrase slightly).   Merry Christmas over here. :unsure:

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36 minutes ago, dundeefc1783 said:

Just look at the absolute cluster f**k that the SG has made in terms of the Ambulance service it is now common to be waiting for minimum of 5/6 hours for an ambulance.

They have made an absolute fucking mess of it and are doing f**k all to sort it. When it comes to healthcare we are now pretty much a third world country.

Nothing to do with the ambulance service.  They can’t hand patients over to hospitals and that’s crucifying them.  They’re spending too much time waiting outside hospitals to deal with calls.

Hospitals also can’t discharge patients to community care packages which adds to the bottleneck.

System is fucked from top to bottom.  Fixing community care is the first step to fixing the entire system.  Too many people in hospital that don’t need to be there but there’s nowhere else for them to go.

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