Elixir Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, btb said: Yeah, I remember you saying it was all but over back in August 30,000 deaths ago (with a funny gif to boot) - happy to be a clown if the criteria is I'm not you! Oh wow, really, people have died in the past four or five months? What a revelation this is. I mean, truly! Just wait until you find out that ~650,000 people die in the UK every single year! Is it immortality you're after? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? The state of this. How many of the 398 died because of Covid not with Covid? And same question for the hospital numbers? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) The thing is, it kind of is over. Bit of an awkward one for the 'no more deaths from anything ever again' mob, granted. Just because the Scottish Government are sanctimonious bed shitters doesn't change that fact. England have got through the winter without shutting things down. Terrific stuff! Edited January 13, 2022 by Elixir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Graft Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Having just watched FMQ and her latest car crash when is someone going to remind her that this is Scotland we are living in and not England? I am sure that every leisure and hospitality business that is about to go to the wall will be glad that they are here and not in England as she constantly pointed out. At least she managed to get her silly wee laughs and condescending looks in. What is she going to blame when we are free from Covid? What will be left of the country? How can anyone still believe that she is the person to lead the country to Independence? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Two weeks and Scotland's COVID jail term will be down to 5 days. The Multi National businesses will be putting pressure on as they won't be happy losing staff for an extra 2 days in Scotland for purely dogmatic reasons. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, Glennie said: rather than obsessing over virus graphs youre better ignoring it and getting on wi your day like we all did pre hysteria f**k that.. Would involve doing some work. 5 o'clock is the time for getting on with your day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 There's Next entering the race to the bottom. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59963700 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Fifer Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 FYI. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Covid good news and progress towards normal: Not for the likes of us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) So today's figures include positive LFTs reported as well as PCRs. 8.2k positive results. 15% of PCRs positive. It's almost like every single thing the South Africans said was right..... Edited January 13, 2022 by Have some faith in Magic 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 hour ago, PedroMoutinho said: Looks to me like all the covid measures are being gradually wound down now in England. NS will try to keep it going as long as possible, but I can’t see the ‘new normal’ schtick working for much longer when we have actual normality over the border with no issues. The SG will have to follow England eventually. No chance people up here are gonna accept the new normal when all restrictions are gone from down south. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, Left Back said: There's Next entering the race to the bottom. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59963700 I'm unvaccinated but this is fair enough. They still get paid for testing positive. Anyone with a brain who has a household contact doing a PCR will get the symptomatic person to do one for them as well. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Lyle Lanley said: The SG will have to follow England eventually. No chance people up here are gonna accept the new normal when all restrictions are gone from down south. England depends on Boris surviving until the summer. A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, ICTChris said: Regarding the SNP losing votes, the last Scottish poll I could find was from Boxing Day. The average polls for the Scottish Parliament showed the SNP vote up overall compared to the election. I do think that if it looks like Labour has a consistent lead in UK wide polling that will boost them in Scotland. I think that happened in 2017 when people switched to Labour because they were on an upturn. Do the SNP not consistently poll higher than they actually get? You always see projections of them winning a majority or taking all the seats in Westminster or whatever and they never quite get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: So today's figures include positive LFTs reported as well as PCRs. 8.2k positive results. 15% of PCRs positive. It's almost like every single thing the the South Africans said was right..... Hopefully the eventual Inquiry will reflect upon the disdain exhibited towards the South Africans by our experts in the early days of Omicron. Who can forget Whitty standing up and exclaiming that "everything we know about Omicron is real, real bad!1!". From memory our main focus, whilst the South Africans were calmly explaining the increased mildness of Omicron, was to restrict entry to any Zimbabweans or Namibians. Just so unbelievably stupid and short-sighted. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. There have been some wild takes on this thread, but that is right up with the best of them. Edited January 13, 2022 by Abdul_Latif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glennie Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 13 minutes ago, Detournement said: England depends on Boris surviving until the summer. A new PM might well move England onto the WEF schedule. the country is already on the globalists schedule, Boris is on board -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Abdul_Latif said: There have been some wild takes on this thread, but this is right up with the best of them. Gove apparently wanted a full lockdown this winter. He has been parroting the same shit as Blair during the full pandemic and is completely owned by Rupert Murdoch. Sunak is a billionaire and is another one who would fall in with France, Germany, Australia etc. So would Javid who is a multi millionaire banker. There are also a few dark horse MPs who might be candidates for a Macron/Obama style rise to prominence. I've got my eye on Tom Tugendhat. It's hard to see a candidate who would have taken the course Johnson has this winter other than Truss and she is too crazy to be considered. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 2 hours ago, btb said: In what universe does 398 people dying with Covid yesterday and 16,000 people in hospital mean that it has essentially gone away? Goodness. This type of thing was alright in the early days but we are all far better educated now on these statistics than we were 2 years ago. Firstly, in the space of a single week at the end of December, around a million people tested positive for Covid. Of those million or so people, those that died for any reason whatsoever in the 28 days that follow will be counted as one of these deaths you quoted. You can discount that figure for, as @craigkillie said, if everyone caught covid all at once, then every death for the following month would be counted as a covid death. Use the death certificates number instead as it is likely to be a bit more accurate. Secondly, as has been said elsewhere, taking a single day/data point is misleading. Use the 7 day average - @superbigal does this here regularly. Thirdly, we know now that over a third of those in hospital with covid showed up at hospital for another reason (illness, mental illness, injury, etc) and just happened to test positive thereafter. Finally, I don't think anyone has said that covid has gone away, nor that anyone expects it to go away any time soon. It is here to stay, but is a different animal from the 2020 one for numerous reasons. Pointing at these headline numbers carries far less weight than it did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 Certainly seem to have stirred up the Greek Chorus which dominates this thread, in truth I'm probably not so far off some of your views and have stated previously that Covid is now endemic and we have to change the way we deal with it. In particular I've also stated that the Scottish Government restriction have been too severe recently. That doesn't mean to say it's over, as the government figures demonstrate and I'm confident that the replies which I haven't read (subsequent to @Elixir's first) have been crass in the extreme. Special mention to @oaksoft who was the biggest doom-monger on BAWA back at the start but who has re-invented himself as the reincarnation of Che Guevara on P&B - there are none so fervent in their views as a convert. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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