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22 hours ago, alta-pete said:

Surprised that so far no one has yet picked up on oor Devi gracing the front page of a fashion magazine: 

https://dailybusinessgroup.co.uk/2022/11/health-professor-goes-glam-as-grazia-cover-star/amp/

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Wid btw. But wouldn’t hing aboot for my breakfast. 

 

Aye, breaking the stereotype that you have to be clever to be a professor.

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2 hours ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

I've said it enough times, how can America be the richest most powerfull nation on earth when it is rammed full of absolute cranks? 

we just don't know 

A: The educated elites successfully manage* the political system to keep the absolute cranks at arm's length. 

 

 

 

* most of the time

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55 minutes ago, Elixir said:

Lockdown lovers won't be able to accept this. Oddly enough the Swedes don't have such a problem.

That’s really interesting:

1. What Swedish data are you referring to?

2. Wales saw a decrease in child speech delays over the same period.  I take it they didn’t lock down?

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^^^ SG Lockdown Lover found

Wee Bully:

1. Sweden never shut schools, you wally. 🥴

2. 'Child speech delays increase due to lockdowns'... bUt WaLeS!!111

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There have been similar rises in Scotland, with children needing communication support increasing by 20% in the last two years.

Scotland the worst performers of the lot. Oh dear.

I'm sure the Welsh data couldn't possibly be incomplete and/or an outlier, given trends in Europe and worldwide. 🤪

At least China won't need to be concerned for the way its weans are being abused thanks to Mark Drakeford's pioneering!

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1 hour ago, oaksoft said:

You've got to be very careful with statistics. Particularly with averages. It can hide important issues.

"......in the last two years. In Wales there was a slight decrease overall, but some councils have seen rises."

Couldn’t; agree more.  Which is why I responded as I did.  

Fascinated to see this Swedish data

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2 hours ago, Elixir said:

^^^ SG Lockdown Lover found

Wee Bully:

1. Sweden never shut schools, you wally. 🥴

2. 'Child speech delays increase due to lockdowns'... bUt WaLeS!!111

Scotland the worst performers of the lot. Oh dear.

I'm sure the Welsh data couldn't possibly be incomplete and/or an outlier, given trends in Europe and worldwide. 🤪

At least China won't need to be concerned for the way its weans are being abused thanks to Mark Drakeford's pioneering!

Sweden didn’t shut down schools - what does their data look like?  You are the one who used it as a comparison, so I presume you have it to hand?

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22 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

No idea what elixir is comparing this to and why he's so confident Sweden's data is any better than the UKs but the one thing I can be absolutely 100% certain of is that you are not actually fascinated to see any such thing, you naughty sealioning wee scamp.

I will say however that those who actually work in that sector with these kids are blaming lockdown themselves so I wouldn't rule it out so dismissively as you've done.

I didn’t dismiss it at all, as it is an obvious conclusion to draw from the data.  I would note however that the Welsh data doesn’t support that conclusion, and the data charts provided show us that it has been an increasing issue even before lockdown

 What I am absolutely fascinated to see is the data @Elixir has which conclusively proves the point by showing what has happened in Sweden.

The loony fringe will seemingly seize upon anything (even making up Swedish data - happy to be corrected) to prove their “point”.  Pointing out these weaknesses should provide rigour to the debate.  Lessons need to be learned.  Making shit up doesn’t help that.  

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4 hours ago, Wee Bully said:

The loony fringe will seemingly seize upon anything

Howling at this, btw. The loony fringe were the clowns in the Scottish Government who pushed 'Zero Covid', and who were still going on in March about masks and Covid-passes being essential long-term, even as it was becoming abundantly clear that sensible nations around Europe were already rolling this back and consigning it to history.

Equally howling at Wee Bully's new found commitment to ensuring rigorous debate, learning lessons, and making things up. We'll just forget all that simping trying to defend the Scottish Government's tombola decision making on a weekly basis!

I was on the right side of history in March 2020 - the side that won and got normal life back. The loony fringe are the ones who wanted permanent societal change. They lost, and lost badly.

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5 minutes ago, oaksoft said:

It was you who said that Sweden doesn't have a problem with increasing language support requirements as part of your argument that lockdown caused ours.

Why would they or how could they? They didn't shut schools or other early learning related activities. The conditions that are being blamed as the cause in the UK literally didn't exist in Sweden. There is an abundance of evidence that Swedish children suffered no learning loss even when compared to other Nordic countries.

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