Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 You're delusional because you think people can ignore the public advisors who are on TV on a daily basis "suggesting" what our strategy might be. You don't "pretty much disregard" everything they say, considering you're on here defending their almost every word. I am not in the habit of defending either of the two, I am wholeheartedly against zero Covid and eradication. No idea what gave you the impression that I was in favour of their policies. It's that very reason why I don't go actively seeking their nonsense. I have little option in here given it's regurgitated verbatim. I was more referring to reading their social media outlets which I totally choose to ignore. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I’ve not read in any great detail about this latest incarnation of the “zero covid” utopia. Surely they’re not advocating lockdowns/tiers for the long haul? Why not just go the whole hog and try for zero cold/flu/norovirus as well Honest to fck if people want to go down that route then let them stay indoors watching Netflix all day and being afraid of their own shadow, but let the majority of us get back to living rather than just existing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I am not in the habit of defending either of the two 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I am not in the habit of defending either of the two, I am wholeheartedly against zero Covid and eradication. No idea what gave you the impression that I was in favour of their policies. Mate, I've read the whole thread lol. You don't need to be in favour of their every policy to defend them to the hilt. As proven by your need to tell folk to stop abusing them and ignore them instead - even when you can't defend the point they're making you try and divert the abuse they are due. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest_Man#1 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I am not in the habit of defending either of the two, I am wholeheartedly against zero Covid and eradication. No idea what gave you the impression that I was in favour of their policies. It's that very reason why I don't go actively seeking their nonsense. I have little option in here given it's regurgitated verbatim. I was more referring to reading their social media outlets which I totally choose to ignore. That is absolute garbage. You’ve defended them incredibly regularly throughout the entirety of the thread. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Mate, I've read the whole thread lol. You don't need to be in favour of their every policy to defend them to the hilt. As proven by your need to tell folk to stop abusing them and ignore them instead - even when you can't defend the point they're making you try and divert the abuse they are due. I really am not, that's your take. Post a few examples of me lauding them ? I'm 100% against zero Covid and eradication which if I'm not mistaken is the policy they would like to pursue. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 My take on this is that the “elimination strategy” is a non starter for economic reasons amongst other things. This is one of those things that will tick the consultation box and then we’ll move on to the real world of making (cautious) progress out of this. The fact that Leitch is already publicly emphasising the huge downsides of such a strategy isn’t an accident. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 That is absolute garbage. You’ve defended them incredibly regularly throughout the entirety of the thread.Again pish. I assume you are saying defending govt policy is by default a defence of the utterances of Shridar and Leitch. It really isn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisalight.. Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Left Back said: They clearly won't. Can you imagine the scene of Sturgeon announcing at the next review we're going to pursue zero covid. Yes we have vaccines, yes we have treatments but we're putting you into a lockdown that will be worse than last spring and will last for longer than last spring. We'll be shutting the borders and you won't be allowed out for at least another year, or probably longer and this includes travel to other parts of the UK as well until the whole world is vaccinated. Zero covid sailed long ago. It would be political suicide to try and pursue it now. Political suicide anywhere else apart from Scotland. NS knows she has free reign to do absolutely anything she wishes and her party would still win by a landslide. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: I really am not, that's your take. Post a few examples of me lauding them ? I'm 100% against zero Covid and eradication which if I'm not mistaken is the policy they would like to pursue. Sorry m8, apparently I've not to actively seek out Leitch and Sridhar material. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) I still find it incredibly unsettling that NS doesn't appear to think that reducing hospitalisations and deaths to pretty much zero through an extensive vaccination programme isn't enough, and would still place a huge focus on cases once we get there. Talk of going back in to lockdown next winter if "cases" go back up is a major red flag IMO. Edited February 18, 2021 by Todd_is_God 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Thereisalight.. said: Political suicide anywhere else apart from Scotland. NS knows she has free reign to do absolutely anything she wishes and her party would still win by a landslide. I wholeheartedly agree she'd have to work very hard not to win the election. I think the above is one of the few things that could stop her. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Sorry m8, apparently I've not to actively seek out Leitch and Sridhar material.Fair enough it would have been a long search too so I don't blame you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: The fact that Leitch is already publicly emphasising the huge downsides of such a strategy isn’t an accident. They are probably already setting up another Citizens Assembly which will report back in July it that unanimously backs managed suppression 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I still find it incredibly unsettling that NS doesn't appear to think that reducing hospitalisations and deaths to pretty much zero through an extensive vaccination programme isn't enough, and would still place a huge focus on cases once we get there. Talk of going back in to lockdown next winter if "cases" go back up is a major red flag IMO.The big nursey woman today used the "new post Covid normal " line again today. To me that's telling. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Talk of going back in to lockdown next winter if "cases" go back up is a major red flag IMO. As I said yesterday they are already drip feeding the idea of a third lockdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 11 minutes ago, The Moonster said: Mate, I've read the whole thread lol. You don't need to be in favour of their every policy to defend them to the hilt. As proven by your need to tell folk to stop abusing them and ignore them instead - even when you can't defend the point they're making you try and divert the abuse they are due. I really am not, that's your take. Post a few examples of me lauding them ? I'm 100% against zero Covid and eradication which if I'm not mistaken is the policy they would like to pursue. Leitch won't say one way or another he just comes on says it's possible but would be problematic and goes away again. He's not making decisions so I have no idea why the news outlets keep having him on his "contribution" to debate should be given by the health correspondent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: I still find it incredibly unsettling that NS doesn't appear to think that reducing hospitalisations and deaths to pretty much zero through an extensive vaccination programme isn't enough, and would still place a huge focus on cases once we get there. Talk of going back in to lockdown next winter if "cases" go back up is a major red flag IMO. Did she say that today? I caught a little bit of it today which seemed unusually upbeat (by her standards). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, Steven W said: Did she say that today? I caught a little bit of it today which seemed unusually upbeat (by her standards). Yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I still find it incredibly unsettling that NS doesn't appear to think that reducing hospitalisations and deaths to pretty much zero through an extensive vaccination programme isn't enough, and would still place a huge focus on cases once we get there.Luckily, they are starting to go the right way too.Today’s figures are almost universally good. I hope this focuses the mind of the SG, esp given the fall in care homes where we can see the impact of vaccination working. I know someone (hopefully facetiously) wondered whether this was due to the “at risk” people having died - care homes are constantly “topped up” with new at risk people. The drop they are seeing is far higher than in the community, and at younger age groups. Given they were done first, and we are now 3 weeks or so past a big chunk having been done, I’m really hopeful that we will see a massive fall by the end of this month / midway through March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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