Thereisalight.. Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Absolute wild that it was less than 2 months ago the optimism at New Year of a better year thanks to the vaccines. Since then we’ve had nothing but negativity rammed down our throats “bUt ThE uNdIsCoVeReD vArIaNtS”. Why is nobody asking what the point of vaccines are for if it isn’t for our route out of this fairly quickly (as in when the elderly/vulnerable have had their 2 doses) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Thereisalight.. said: Absolute wild that it was less than 2 months ago the optimism at New Year of a better year thanks to the vaccines. Since then we’ve had nothing but negativity rammed down our throats “bUt ThE uNdIsCoVeReD vArIaNtS”. Why is nobody asking what the point of vaccines are for if it isn’t for our route out of this fairly quickly (as in when the elderly/vulnerable have had their 2 doses) Our press are useless and driving into the heart of issues and are much happier dancing round the outside with things like "JEAN 74 HASNT HAD HER VACCINE!!!!!!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Luckily, they are starting to go the right way too. Today’s figures are almost universally good. I hope this focuses the mind of the SG, esp given the fall in care homes where we can see the impact of vaccination working. I know someone (hopefully facetiously) wondered whether this was due to the “at risk” people having died - care homes are constantly “topped up” with new at risk people. The drop they are seeing is far higher than in the community, and at younger age groups. Given they were done first, and we are now 3 weeks or so past a big chunk having been done, I’m really hopeful that we will see a massive fall by the end of this month / midway through March. They are. But my concern was about next winter. The message is essentially that, even with the almost complete absence of hospitalisations and deaths, an increase in cases next winter would result in another lockdown. I don't see how they can think that is either sensible or acceptable. What would such draconian measures in that scenario achieve? Edited February 18, 2021 by Todd_is_God 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 The press and media, at least at national level, are enjoying this - easy stories and headlines for them without having to even try. The journalists working for said publications are free to swan around as they so wish as well. No interest at all in challenging government statements about undiscovered variants. They hear that and that's the front four pages filled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Luckily, they are starting to go the right way too. Today’s figures are almost universally good. I hope this focuses the mind of the SG, esp given the fall in care homes where we can see the impact of vaccination working. I know someone (hopefully facetiously) wondered whether this was due to the “at risk” people having died - care homes are constantly “topped up” with new at risk people. The drop they are seeing is far higher than in the community, and at younger age groups. Given they were done first, and we are now 3 weeks or so past a big chunk having been done, I’m really hopeful that we will see a massive fall by the end of this month / midway through March. Like him, I'd assume that they haven't been topped up to precovid levels, who on earth would put their elderly relatives in a care home at the moment if they didn't have houses and baubles to leave. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Saying on the news that infections are highest in primary age children and young adults according to the latest REACT survey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 There is zero chance of a lockdown without furlough. It's sad to admit but I hope the UK Govt quite rightly tell NS to do one if she asks for furlough to return next winter. If hospitals aren't under pressure, deaths are minimal, there's no need for another lockdown as it will obviously show the vaccine works. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, ayrmad said: Like him, I'd assume that they haven't been topped up to precovid levels, who on earth would put their elderly relatives in a care home at the moment if they didn't have houses and baubles to leave. People who couldn't cope or whose relatives need round the clock specialist care 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Back said: Saying on the news that infections are highest in primary age children and young adults according to the latest REACT survey. Ahhhh smashing, and we're sending them back next week to allow positive cases to shoot through the roof again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: They are. But my concern was about next winter. The message is essentially that, even with the almost complete absence of hospitalisations and deaths, an increase in cases next winter would result in another lockdown. I don't see how they can think that is either sensible or acceptable. What would such draconian measures in that scenario achieve? I did have a wee laugh last night about us having 3 folk in ICU and Nicola telling us we're not allowed out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Compare and contrast the mood music in posterchild countries like NZ to here. NZ - low prevelance & high vaccination = normality. Full removal of all restrictions. Scotland - low prevelance & high vaccination = restrictions & lockdown watch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, ayrmad said: I did have a wee laugh last night about us having 3 folk in ICU and Nicola telling us we're not allowed out. The worst is you can absolutely guarantee there would be plenty willing to defend such actions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Social distancing... outside... in August... with the whole country vaccinated. What is Scotland becoming? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, madwullie said: People who couldn't cope or whose relatives need round the clock specialist care Those groupings won't cover it, I'd manage to cope for a bit longer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: Compare and contrast the mood music in posterchild countries like NZ to here. NZ - low prevelance & high vaccination = normality. Full removal of all restrictions. Scotland - low prevelance & high vaccination = restrictions & lockdown watch. it won't b acceptable if we're the only ones doings so. and no furlough to boot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Todd_is_God said: The worst is you can absolutely guarantee there would be plenty willing to defend such actions I'll be out out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Elixir said: Social distancing... outside... in August... with the whole country vaccinated. What is Scotland becoming? Janey Godley will be there, so I can actually understand why some people would want to distance from her. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwullie Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Feel like I've had a comprehensive defeat in the world dead arm championships after the jag yesterday. Fucking hell 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 I'd be happier if Janey Godley was featuring at Fringe in the Sea. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 Just now, madwullie said: Feel like I've had a comprehensive defeat in the world dead arm championships after the jag yesterday. Fucking hell comprehensive win surely? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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