Guest Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: Stay local for 3 weeks after stay at home lifted on Friday. Ban on travel outwith your LA area remains in place until 23 April ! Was that always the plan per the roadmap ? I'm pretty sure Hotels weren't due to open until April 26th anyway, so basically nothing much has changed. We've got a golf outing booked for Aviemore area for early May, so there's obviously no way that will be going ahead unless our Hotels have all reopened as planned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les Cabbage Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Rugster said: The poor wee lamb Devi is still in a twitter huff She ought to make her own sunshine. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Here is the latest antibody rates for Scotland from the ONS survey Bauld on BBC saying the ONS figs show 25% of all over 70s in Scotland are showing no antibody protection. Is that what this is saying as I thought it was showing the average % of antibodies as a whole in each age group as opposed to the % of that age group showing any antibody presence ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 I'm pretty sure Hotels weren't due to open until April 26th anyway, so basically nothing much has changed. We've got a golf outing booked for Aviemore area for early May, so there's obviously no way that will be going ahead unless our Hotels have all reopened as planned.Not sure I need hotels open to be able to enjoy a trip out of South Ayrshire. A day trip would suffice but alas no for another 3 weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 30, 2021 Author Share Posted March 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Jean King said: So averaging just 75% with antibodies in the over 70s. That surely can't be right if uptake for vaccination was 90%+ and efficacy is as good as we are being told. One in 4 unprotected (if that is what this is showing) is a concern. Was about to post when Bauld made exactly this point on BBC. She is confirming that in effect the ONS survey is showing approx 25% of over 70s in Scotland appear not to have protection. All of those have had at least 1 dose so surely more should be showing some antibody level. The ONS had a note on the report saying that there could be a potential data issue with the figures in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It does seem incongrous, all over 70s in both England and Scotland should have been vaccinated. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Honest_Man#1 said: Tried to find data on hospital & ICU capacity in Chile but struggling. Essentially if it’s just rising case numbers, with little impact on hospital and ICU data then it’s actually great news. If it is impacting on them negatively then it’s pretty disastrous. Check out https://ourworldindata.org/ you can see from there that their cases were fairly flat but at a reasonably high level when they started vaccinating at the start of Feb. So at the same time the numbers of deaths hasn't come down either, and just in the past few days they've jumped. It's a totally different situation to here in the UK. We started vaccinating on a downward trend, and the vaccines have only helped that downward trend. Unless we had a sudden massive spike in cases, it's a slight warning of what can go wrong, but not something we should have to worry about, as our levels of infections are far lower. Our cases have levelled off, and we may even see a rise, but unless something goes badly wrong, we shouldn't see it turn into a massive spike that'd see hospital numbers also go up, and that's what really matters now. Chile v UK cases comparison 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: 12 minutes ago, WATTOO said: I'm pretty sure Hotels weren't due to open until April 26th anyway, so basically nothing much has changed. We've got a golf outing booked for Aviemore area for early May, so there's obviously no way that will be going ahead unless our Hotels have all reopened as planned. Not sure I need hotels open to be able to enjoy a trip out of South Ayrshire. A day trip would suffice but alas no for another 3 weeks. Until hospitality has reopened I don't really see the point in going anywhere. Maybe i'm just being selfish but can't see much fun in just driving aimlessly when everything is still closed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The ONS had a note on the report saying that there could be a potential data issue with the figures in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It does seem incongrous, all over 70s in both England and Scotland should have been vaccinated.Cheers. I deleted that post as I didn't think I had worded it well but Bauld seems to have confirmed the interpretation hence my second post. She failed to mention any caveat for Scotland unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 13 minutes ago, Les Cabbage said: She ought to make her own sunshine. She'll be even more upset about this: Still, her and her ilk have already put it out there that it's actually evolving to become more lethal!!!11 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 For the avoidance of doubt, because I can't see it explicitly on the gov.scot website, can you go and visit people indoors again under the 'Stay Local' guidance? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.V.T. Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Stay local for 3 weeks after stay at home lifted on Friday. Ban on travel outwith your LA area remains in place until 23 April !Was that always the plan per the roadmap ?Can you not travel up to 5 miles from your boundary line into another area as well?I don’t know why they just didn’t make it 5 mile radius again. Living in Barrhead, Paisley is more local than Eaglesham but the latter is my authority area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Until hospitality has reopened I don't really see the point in going anywhere. Maybe i'm just being selfish but can't see much fun in just driving aimlessly when everything is still closed.Maybe. I suspect the beaches will be busy with folk just wanting fresh air over the holiday weekend. In Troon it tends to get taken for granted by a lot of the locals that it's within walking distance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Can you not travel up to 5 miles from your boundary line into another area as well?I don’t know why they just didn’t make it 5 mile radius again. Living in Barrhead, Paisley is more local than Eaglesham but the latter is my authority area. NS just specifically said travel outwith your LA banned until 23 April at least. Not sure of any nuances within that order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 For the avoidance of doubt, because I can't see it explicitly on the gov.scot website, can you go and visit people indoors again under the 'Stay Local' guidance?No. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: 3 minutes ago, GiGi said: For the avoidance of doubt, because I can't see it explicitly on the gov.scot website, can you go and visit people indoors again under the 'Stay Local' guidance? No. Then what's the difference between 'stay home' and 'stay local' other than swapping a word out? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: 3 minutes ago, D.V.T. said: Can you not travel up to 5 miles from your boundary line into another area as well? I don’t know why they just didn’t make it 5 mile radius again. Living in Barrhead, Paisley is more local than Eaglesham but the latter is my authority area. NS just specifically said travel outwith your LA banned until 23 April at least. I thought it was 26th April on the roadmap? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: NS just specifically said travel outwith your LA banned until 23 April at least. Not sure of any nuances within that order. No you can travel upto 5miles, thats been the case for quite a while, the poster you’ve quoted is right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Just now, Billy Jean King said: 3 minutes ago, WATTOO said: Until hospitality has reopened I don't really see the point in going anywhere. Maybe i'm just being selfish but can't see much fun in just driving aimlessly when everything is still closed. Maybe. I suspect the beaches will be busy with folk just wanting fresh air over the holiday weekend. In Troon it tends to get taken for granted by a lot of the locals that it's within walking distance. Yes, Largs has been constantly mobbed throughout and the wind farms above Largs also seem to be a huge attraction for people. I'd imagine we've had it much better than those in England and Wales as at least we've been allowed to continue with our outdoor sports such as Golf and Tennis throughout this. Still, I don't imagine it will be much fun for those living in a high rise in the middle of a City. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 33 minutes ago, Distant Doonhamer said: The Tories are a bunch of charlatans by and large. That said, whatever the reasons behind it be that planning, luck, hoarding or a combination thereof the U.K. vaccination programmes have been a huge success. The EU have made a total arse of the whole thing. Politicising a vaccine to the huge detriment of the rollout process in a public health emergency is unforgivable IMHO. Leave a light on for us! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 Then what's the difference between 'stay home' and 'stay local' other than swapping a word out?It seems basically you no longer need to stay in the house "unless for specific reasons" as it was before. No stay at home lockdown order but not allowed to travel outwith your LA area. Your basically right, it's as you were essentially for the next 3 weeks on this front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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