Forever_blueco Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 This has to be the end for sturgeon completely fucked it . Any other politician would be hounded but she does still have her weird cult like fan boys and girls 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Jan Vojáček said: If that is the case then it's absolutely disgraceful. And no amount of 'Well Westminster wouldn't give us the money' can cover it. Playing politics with people's livelihoods. In all seriousness though, its worth coming back to this very valid point @Jan Vojáček raised. Has there been any mention of how nightclub staff are going to be supported if their place of work is forced to close? Edited December 23, 2021 by Abdul_Latif 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Abdul_Latif said: Has there been any mention of how nightclub staff are going to be supported if their place of work is forced to close? Hands tied. Begging bowl. Bad Toarrrrries. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HibsFan said: So from what I can see, Sturgeon and Drakeford jumped the gun with Omicron restrictions to show everyone that they’re “not like that careless Brexit baddie Boris!!!!”, only for the data to come back and show them that they were completely and utterly wrong to do so? .... Real world data was already readily available from South Africa for what happens if you carry on as previously during an omicron wave and allow it to peak with no extra restrictions but for whatever reason they chose to ignore that and listen instead to attention seeking computer modelling types with a track record of pushing worst case scenarios on the basis of very flimsy reasoning. What has unfolded over the last few days is laughable. Edited December 23, 2021 by LongTimeLurker 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: This has to be the end for sturgeon completely fucked it . Any other politician would be hounded but she does still have her weird cult like fan boys and girls That seems incredibly naïve. As you say there are a load of people who will support the SNP regardless of what they do. They have control of Holyrood and 4.5 years left of that term. It's hardly a crisis for the SNP. She comes across as too egotistical to step down but also more importantly who on earth would replace her? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, Todd_is_God said: They are the outlier here because they allowed themselves to be outliers in the Summer. They have consistently made choices with regards to vaccinations and easing of restrictions that afford them the ability to position themselves differently. I don't disagree and from a personal perspective I think the UK Gov have made the right calls / best calls for me recently from the perspective of the pandemic. That said, would I want them Governing me with their arrogant self serving policies and utter contempt for Scotland ? While the SNP may indeed have lost much support and trust during all this, it's still a huge jump for someone like myself, who's socialist leaning and anti conservative in almost everything, to suddenly jump ship just because Boris says I can go to the fitba or go out clubbing afterwards. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this ?? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Abdul_Latif said: In all seriousness though, its worth coming back to this very valid point @Jan Vojáček raised. Has there been any mention of how nightclub staff are going to be supported if their place of work is forced to close? Details of a £375m support package to be announced "shortly". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59768297 ETA who knows whether all that is going to nightclubs. Anyone got any idea how many nightclubs there are in Scotland that will be forced to close? Edited December 23, 2021 by Left Back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Just now, WATTOO said: I don't disagree and from a personal perspective I think the UK Gov have made the right calls / best calls for me recently from the perspective of the pandemic. That said, would I want them Governing me with their arrogant self serving policies and utter contempt for Scotland ? While the SNP may indeed have lost much support and trust during all this, it's still a huge jump for someone like myself, who's socialist leaning and anti conservative in almost everything, to suddenly jump ship just because Boris says I can go to the fitba or go out clubbing afterwards. I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in this ?? Do you want the bit in bold doing the other bit in bold? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever_blueco Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Left Back said: That seems incredibly naïve. As you say there are a load of people who will support the SNP regardless of what they do. They have control of Holyrood and 4.5 years left of that term. It's hardly a crisis for the SNP. She comes across as too egotistical to step down but also more importantly who on earth would replace her? She is putting the country through a further economic battering over the next month for her own ego and politics . When that becomes clear surely it will be unforgivable in the eyes of many of the public Edited December 23, 2021 by Forever_blueco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Left Back said: Details of a £375m support package to be announced "shortly". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59768297 That's money that is going to be taken from elsewhere then, because it's not extra money. Wonder what local resources, projects etc are going to suffer in order to fund this vanity project. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: This has to be the end for sturgeon completely fucked it . Any other politician would be hounded but she does still have her weird cult like fan boys and girls As fucked as any of this is, one look at the other prominent political leader on this island will tell you we've long since jumped the shark of what can actually finish a PM/FM. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Left Back said: That seems incredibly naïve. As you say there are a load of people who will support the SNP regardless of what they do. They have control of Holyrood and 4.5 years left of that term. It's hardly a crisis for the SNP. She comes across as too egotistical to step down but also more importantly who on earth would replace her? The Deputy First Minister of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: She is putting the country through a further economic battering over the next month for her own ego and politics . When that becomes clear surely it will be unforgivable in the eyes of many of the public People have short memories. If this ends in 2022 as the WHO are thinking there's still a long time to put distance between this shit show and the next Holyrood election. That's the basic thought process behind Boris pushing back the UK public enquiry. Enough distance between the shit and the culpability reduces the effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abdul_Latif Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, GiGi said: As fucked as any of this is, one look at the other prominent political leader on this island will tell you we've long since jumped the shark of what can actually finish a PM/FM. Fucking with people’s livelihoods is usually the one. Boris hasn’t done that, whatever you think of his wine in the garden during London restrictions or Peppa Pig meltdown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 19 minutes ago, TheScarf said: The Tories appear to have actually listened to the people they govern. With England saying 'Don't you fucking dare'. The SG and the Senedd have gone 'f**k it we're not listening to you, and do not question us.' Her ‘my job is to make unpopular decisions’ mantra became ‘I know best’ a long time ago. Your job is actually to carry out the mandate given to you by to the electorate, with some outlier decisions in the case of exceptional circumstances. That expired a long time ago so kindly start listening. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiGi Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That's money that is going to be taken from elsewhere then, because it's not extra money. Wonder what local resources, projects etc are going to suffer in order to fund this vanity project It's very important that they publish this. Here's what you could have had public money spent on instead of chucking a token amount at stuff we've decided to close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Left Back said: Details of a £375m support package to be announced "shortly". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-59768297 ETA who knows whether all that is going to nightclubs. Anyone got any idea how many nightclubs there are in Scotland that will be forced to close? This might be enough to keep staff afloat, but i'm not convinced it will keep the businesses afloat, especially if they don't lift this after 3 weeks. If the businesses go under, staff get fucked again. It's an entirely avoidable situation, but the SG seem hell-bent on doubling down regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 40 minutes ago, SoapMactavish said: Not sure if this is serious or not, but you can’t iust charge folk for not being vaccinated and taking space, as frustrating as it is. it undermines the whole ethos of the NHS, and then where do you draw the line? Not vaccinated against Flu? Get in the sea. Most folk not vaccinated are hesitant, not full on tinfoil hat brigade. If you convince the hesitant folk you are quids in. The tinfoil hat, Bill Gates, 5G, Ivermectin and Zinc ones will never be convinced. No-one I work alongside will judge folk for not having had a vaccine so if folk haven’t had it and aren’t sure, speak to a Doctor and ask their opinion. The uk govt are already doing this for anyone who requires to go into a nursing home Cost of care, £1k per week, taken off the forced sale of your house after you pass away So why couldn't this same principle be applied to unvaccinated people who are now effectively holding the country to ransom 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, Forever_blueco said: She is putting the country through a further economic battering over the next month for her own ego and politics . When that becomes clear surely it will be unforgivable in the eyes of many of the public It doesn't matter to a lot of voters whether it's forgivable or not. The fact there's no credible alternative will get her/them over the line with a reduced minority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post craigkillie Posted December 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2021 The uk govt are already doing this for anyone who requires to go into a nursing home Cost of care, £1k per week, taken off the forced sale of your house after you pass away So why couldn't this same principle be applied to unvaccinated people who are now effectively holding the country to ransomBecause we don't live in a fascist state which punishes people for their medical choices, whether we agree with them or not. 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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