Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Imagine WWII had gone the other way and Germany won. How good a side could Germany have had and would anyone have won a world cup since? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Pretty good and yes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 There wouldn't have been many other European winners tbf 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Germany v Italy in every final would get a bit boring, Japan would always get knocked out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnoustie Young Guvnor Posted February 19, 2020 Author Share Posted February 19, 2020 The USSR could have had some team. And the Habsburg and Ottoman Empires. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Roman Empire would stroll any World Cup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsr Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 Jim Traynor would spend his day fabricating allegations of Jewish ancestry in Celtic players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Internationals actually continued well into WWII. Most of the Anti Comintern Pact nations continued to play each other - and neutrals. Germany for example (incorporating Austria by then) played 35 full internationals between autumn 1939 and the end of 1942; heavy defeats at El Alamein and Stalingrad altering the dynamic of matters. They played their allies like Hungary, Bulgaria, Italy, Romania and Finland as well as puppet states such as Slovakia, Bohemia-Moravia and Croatia... but also neutral countries like Yugoslavia, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden and Spain. They didn't actually win all of them: Sweden, Switzerland and Yugoslavia beat them twice; Hungary and Italy once. Their last game was the weekend the Eastern Front turned. Here in Britain home internationals continued although as "unofficial" matches. Scandanavian and Iberian countries also continued to play with each other. Japan went on tour in August 1942. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I don't think Germany would have won any more World Cups than they have done. Hitler's away record looks pretty decent on paper, but he struggled to break down world class sides. His gung-ho tactics may have been popular in Germany for a period of time, but they were never really effective against teams who know how to defend. Churchill and Stalin both pulled his pants down tactically. Also, his home record was shocking and ultimately cost him his job. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) Incidentally when the Nazis came to power they reorganised the German football leagues. Until then there had been 7 regional leagues, whose winners and runners-up (plus extra teams from the 2 biggest regions) qualified to a 16-team national championship. They were replaced by 16 smaller regional leagues. From then on it followed their terrifying territorial expansion: 1938-39 ... 18 ... Eastern (ex-Austrian) and Sudetenland (ex-Czechoslovakian) added 1939-40 ... 18 1940-41 ... 20 ... Alsace (ex-French) and Danzig-West Prussia (ex-Polish) added 1941-42 ... 25 ... General and Warthe (ex-Polish) added; Eastern renamed Danube-Alpine (with ex-Yugoslav); 3 existing leagues sub-divided into 6 due to war conditions 1942-43 ... 29 ... Schleswig-Holstein (ex-Danish) added; 3 existing leagues sub-divided into 6 due to war conditions 1943-44 ... 31 ... Bohemia-Moravia (ex-Czechoslovakian) added; 1 existing league sub-divided into 2 due to war conditions Clubs from certain others parts of France (e.g. Metz), Luxembourg, and Poland (e.g. Chorzow, Katowice and Silesia) were incorporated directly into German leagues. Some of the clubs from occupied territories did quite well. Admira Vienna reached the championship final in 1939; Rapid Vienna reached SF in 1940 and won in 1941; Strasbourg reached QF in 1942, while First Vienna reached final; Kiel and First Vienna both reached SF in 1943; First Vienna reached QF in 1944. Rapid Vienna won the German Cup in 1938 and First Vienna in 1943. Edited February 21, 2020 by HibeeJibee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Pele got them telt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, HibeeJibee said: Internationals actually continued well into WWII. Most of the Anti Comintern Pact nations continued to play each other - and neutrals. Germany for example (incorporating Austria by then) played 35 full internationals between autumn 1939 and the end of 1942; heavy defeats at El Alamein and Stalingrad altering the dynamic of matters. They played their allies like Hungary, Bulgaria, Italy, Romania and Finland as well as puppet states such as Slovakia, Bohemia-Moravia and Croatia... but also neutral countries like Yugoslavia, Denmark, Switzerland, Sweden and Spain. They didn't actually win all of them: Sweden, Switzerland and Yugoslavia beat them twice; Hungary and Italy once. Their last game was the weekend the Eastern Front turned. Here in Britain home internationals continued although as "unofficial" matches. Scandanavian and Iberian countries also continued to play with each other. Japan went on tour in August 1942. December 1941, shirley? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: December 1941, shirley? Very good . Same weekend the Battle of Guadalcanal began. In a friendly series in Changchun beat China 6-1, Manchukuo 3-1 and Mongolia 12-0. Next week lost 5-0 to Korea in Seoul ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JTS98 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Biggest football losers of World War II may well have been Peru. They were very strong at the time. Should have been in the semi-finals of the 1936 Olympics, having gubbed Austria 4-2. However, the match was ordered to be replayed due to a pitch invasion and the Peruvians told them to shove their replay and went home. Austria went on to narrowly lose the final to Italy after extra-time. They couldn't be arsed with the 1938 World Cup, South America in general was still in a bit of a huff with the Europeans, but they went on to win the Copa America in 1939 and finish fourth in 1941. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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