johnnydun Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 With all the arguments going on about clubs being crowned champions because they are X amount of points ahead; What is the largest points gap that has been recovered to win a league or avoid relegation and in how many games? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peters Wyngarde Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Starter - Stirling Albion were 8 points off Alloa in top spot with 6 games to play in 2009-10 , tier 3, they went top with 2 games to play and won the title. The Alloa bottle crash was so severe they didn't even win the playoffs. Bound to be bigger ones than that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 Did Morton not blow a commanding lead a few of seasons ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted March 15, 2020 Author Share Posted March 15, 2020 Man United had an 11 point lead over Arsenal with 9 to play. Arsenal won the league 97/98. Arsenal had an 8 point lead over Man United in March 2003. Man United won the league by 5 points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted March 15, 2020 Share Posted March 15, 2020 With all the arguments going on about clubs being crowned champions because they are X amount of points ahead; What is the largest points gap that has been recovered to win a league or avoid relegation and in how many games? Mid February 2017 St. Mirren (10th) were 12 points behind both Raith (in 8th) and Dumbarton (in 7th) with 12 games to go. We finished above both of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: Did Morton not blow a commanding lead a few of seasons ago? 2003/04, Second Division. At New Year Morton had a 12 point lead having played 16 games and won 11, drawn 4, lost 1, for 37 points. In their next 20 games they only gathered another 22 points having won 5, drawn 7 and lost 8, to finish in fourth place. They were a scarcely believable 11 points off top-of-the-table Airdrie, and 3 points off the second promotion place. This is one of the reasons why I have a preference for voiding this season rather than crowing champions, although the leads at the top of the first, second and fourth tiers of Scottish football are too big to dismiss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 7 hours ago, GordonS said: 2003/04, Second Division. At New Year Morton had a 12 point lead having played 16 games and won 11, drawn 4, lost 1, for 37 points. In their next 20 games they only gathered another 22 points having won 5, drawn 7 and lost 8, to finish in fourth place. They were a scarcely believable 11 points off top-of-the-table Airdrie, and 3 points off the second promotion place. This is one of the reasons why I have a preference for voiding this season rather than crowing champions, although the leads at the top of the first, second and fourth tiers of Scottish football are too big to dismiss. I'm quite happy dismissing the leads at the top of the first and second tiers - f*** 'em... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 In 2009/10 DUndee were 15 points ahead of us at one point 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 12 hours ago, GordonS said: 2003/04, Second Division. At New Year Morton had a 12 point lead having played 16 games and won 11, drawn 4, lost 1, for 37 points. In their next 20 games they only gathered another 22 points having won 5, drawn 7 and lost 8, to finish in fourth place. They were a scarcely believable 11 points off top-of-the-table Airdrie, and 3 points off the second promotion place. This is one of the reasons why I have a preference for voiding this season rather than crowing champions, although the leads at the top of the first, second and fourth tiers of Scottish football are too big to dismiss. I remember that. Did it not lead to accusations that they deliberately threw the league? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, The Gypsy King said: I remember that. Did it not lead to accusations that they deliberately threw the league? It did, and they had to refute accusations of match fixing. IIRC there was nothing more to that than idle suspicion about how their form dropped so dramatically. It was probably more just a good run than anything else - if a club had a run like that mid or late season, nobody would have thought anything of it. The lead was also exaggerated by no other club having a decent start to the season; second place after 16 games with only 25 points isn't normal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 Raith Rovers' capitulation in 1980-81 deserves a mention. With 10 games remaining they were second top of the First Division (second tier), two points behind eventual champions Hibernian with two games in hand, and 13 points ahead of Dundee, who would overcome that deficit to claim the second promotion place. Some going, considering it was two points for a win back then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 On 16/03/2020 at 13:31, GordonS said: It did, and they had to refute accusations of match fixing. IIRC there was nothing more to that than idle suspicion about how their form dropped so dramatically. It was probably more just a good run than anything else - if a club had a run like that mid or late season, nobody would have thought anything of it. The lead was also exaggerated by no other club having a decent start to the season; second place after 16 games with only 25 points isn't normal. That was a season to remember. I had a friend who was a Morton fan from Glasgow. I had given him directions to meet before the November game but in pre sat nav days, he got lost and made his own way to the stadium. Morton gubbed us 6-1 and we met at the end of the game and he was all smiles. We also had lost at Cappielow. There certainly were rumours about some betting dodges ( Australian players?-) and they did collapse . I think Hamilton caught them and might even have taken 6 of them in Hamilton. Our turning point was bringing in Paul Lovering / a very talented young Willie McLaren, Mark Roberts and Owen Coyle on loan. We did manage a draw at Cappielow and as their season imploded, my friend did not visit for our 2-0 win in Airdrie ,whilst already being League winners. Oh for that squad of players over the last few seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmic Joe Posted March 20, 2020 Share Posted March 20, 2020 (edited) Pretty sure Stenhousemuir also blew a substantial lead in 2005-06. Raith Rovers 1980-81, Stenhousemuir 2005-06. Now if only I could remember an occasion when Hertz absolutely Hertzed a league from a winning position we could get it right round these On the Terrace c***s Edited March 20, 2020 by Angusfifer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said: .There certainly were rumours about some betting dodges ( Australian players?-) and they did collapse . John and Marco Maisano. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I can't provide the workings but Rangers* somehow managed to win 54 league titles in just 8 years..... That's some fucking going by anyones reckoning. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapelhall chap Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 18 hours ago, RedEd said: John and Marco Maisano. Thanks and thems the boys. If I remember they were good midfielders and John then departed for other triumphs at Ayr? Probably back in Australia now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedEd Posted March 22, 2020 Share Posted March 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Chapelhall chap said: Thanks and thems the boys. If I remember they were good midfielders and John then departed for other triumphs at Ayr? Probably back in Australia now. John did play for Ayr. It wasn't a memorable spell, but we were rank at the time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 As ICTChris said, Dundee were 15 ahead of us in late 2009 and we ended up 12 ahead of them in April 2010 when we won the league. A cool 27 point swing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skyline Drifter Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Queen of the South were 12 points behind Stranraer at the end of January 2006. We stayed up with a game to spare and Stranraer regretting letting Allan Jenkins go off to Gretna in that January window. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 On 16/03/2020 at 13:15, Richey Edwards said: I remember that. Did it not lead to accusations that they deliberately threw the league? A Saints supporting mate of mine who worked in the Greenock Postal Sorting Office at the time claims to have started that rumour - ssssshhhhh! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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