PartyFears2 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Butcher will grab this opportunity to bolt. Doesn’t want Connolly smacking his pus again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvondo_the_great Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, locheedee said: Thing is how much do you think you can get for him even if he does get sold? 800-900k is my guess. He's a good keeper but I think 2 million is unrealistic. Edited October 29, 2020 by Mvondo_the_great 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I don't think it'll happen, and honestly there are worse places for him to be than United (ahem Hearts ahem), but if Shankland left for nothing I think I'd laugh so hard I might knock myself into a coma 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, Mvondo_the_great said: 800-900k is my guess. He's a good keeper but I think 2 million is unrealistic. Not when he’s out of contact in the summer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 23 minutes ago, RossBFaeDundee said: I don't think it'll happen, and honestly there are worse places for him to be than United (ahem Hearts ahem), but if Shankland left for nothing I think I'd laugh so hard I might knock myself into a coma I don't think it'll happen either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, Yenitit said: Not when he’s out of contact in the summer. Didn't realise his contract was up next year - he'll just sign a pre contract in January them and piss off for free (if he doesn't refuse the pay deal and walk now) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Derry boys Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, locheedee said: Didn't realise his contract was up next year - he'll just sign a pre contract in January them and piss off for free (if he doesn't refuse the pay deal and walk now) It's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: It's not. Ach well, he's still not going for 2m and is more likely to get picked up by some championship or European club for 500k - if his agent doesn't use his raised profile to get a new deal elsewhere now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 20 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: It's not. My bad. Read elsewhere it was. Doesn’t really matter if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Yenitit said: My bad. Read elsewhere it was. Doesn’t really matter if he doesn’t agree to a pay cut anyway. Are you assuming that United will just impose the pay cuts and let players with a re-sale value walk away? That seems a little far fetched. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 That's a fair number of Dundee supporters across various social media saying that Shankland will be away on a free transfer so I am inclined to believe it's true. It's a shame we never got to reap the benefits of his £500k release clause last January. Farewell sweet prince x -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Are you assuming that United will just impose the pay cuts and let players with a re-sale value walk away? That seems a little far fetched. So are you saying they will let some off without taking the deal? What's stopping them all just saying "nah I'll stay on my full pay thanks" then? I'd assume the PFA would have something to say about that if they aren't already about the fact your letting the loanees and new signings stay on full pay. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Just now, locheedee said: So are you saying they will let some off without taking the deal? What's stopping them all just saying "nah I'll stay on my full pay thanks" then? I'd assume the PFA would have something to say about that if they aren't already about the fact your letting the loanees and new signings stay on full pay. Those with a re-sale value, yes, of course. The PFA have got no say on it whatsoever. Dundee could have done the same with Hemmings when he refused to take a cut but presumably were just happy to get rid of him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Bliss Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Are you assuming that United will just impose the pay cuts and let players with a re-sale value walk away? That seems a little far fetched. It appears only 3 are immune to this. None were immune to it at my club. If you’re imposing pay cuts that’s the outcome I’m afraid. Hiya Mr Ammo, hiya pal. Still hurting Edited October 29, 2020 by Yenitit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locheedee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Pull My Strings said: Those with a re-sale value, yes, of course. The PFA have got no say on it whatsoever. Dundee could have done the same with Hemmings when he refused to take a cut but presumably were just happy to get rid of him. I obvs don't know how much say the PFA would have but I would imagine they'd be telling the players to tell your board to gtf if they was even the slightest hint of some getting let off with the deal. & Yeah we probably could have made an exception for Hemmings but rather than being 'happy to get rid of him' we chose to have enough class to offer the same terms to the whole team and didn't try to shaft any of our players to save players with resale value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Those with a re-sale value, yes, of course. The PFA have got no say on it whatsoever. Dundee could have done the same with Hemmings when he refused to take a cut but presumably were just happy to get rid of him. I am afraid your legal training cannot compete with the great minds of the Dundee fans on Pie and Bovril. Siegrist and Shankland are gone and we're in admin on Friday. FACT. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Shonklun 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, locheedee said: Yeah we probably could have made an exception for Hemmings but rather than being 'happy to get rid of him' we chose to have enough class to offer the same terms to the whole team and didn't try to shaft any of our players to save players with resale value. We also didn't bring in any new players - never mind ones that take in several thousands a week - until after our cuts were put in place and the players had all been negotiated with on their pay. You would think most teams would establish the restrictions placed on them before looking to bring in more players. Not big Tony though evidently... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pull My Strings Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 1 minute ago, locheedee said: ... Yeah we probably could have made an exception for Hemmings but rather than being 'happy to get rid of him' we chose to have enough class to offer the same terms to the whole team and didn't try to shaft any of our players to save players with resale value. That's quite an impressive spin. Bravo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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