George Floyd/Black Lives Matter Protests

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6 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

He brought it up himself to try and get peter schmichael arrested. He’s a nice guy though.

Given the alleged details of that (13-year old) incident; I have NO fucking clue why you think that makes your posts acceptable. None.

[D.A.F.C]

8 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

For fucks sake not this " he's only got that job cause the channel/ station need to meet quotas of black people " pish again.  Derek Ferguson sounds like a primary 3 giving a talk to the class when he describes something which he once did as a professional. when I write that a part of me thought god I hope he doesn't read that cause it could hurt his wee feelings.  the same clapped out jakies like peter Houston  billy dodds jimmy Calderwood john hughes etc etc along wwith your regular presenters young cowan cosgrove Gordon   have been doing the rounds on Scottish sports broadcasting for f**k knows how long, when was the last time a black former player was a guest or feature presenter on sportsound/scene?  there have been plenty over the years and a majority of them will speak English as their first language,   No No we'll not question the auld pals acts getting gigs since the beginning of time but as soon as a blackman is in the studio he must be a box ticker, ffs lads

Wasn’t Sanjeev Kohli an integral part of setting up on the ball?

The bbc have actually publicly stated that they wanted to change motd to be less white. f**k me.

[D.A.F.C]

13 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

It doesn't. That these quotas represent discrimination is an easy trap to fall into but its lazy and misses the point. The quotas are there because there was no representation. By making representation the norm then over time hopefully it will be viewed as the norm and race or whatever else wont come into the decision making process. It's obvious though when its overwhelmingly white males selecting other white males though that race is coming into it. 

 

When evidence shows that it's not longer happening, maybe diversity quotas can go away and be replaced with the fair society we absolutely do not currently have. 

If you read the link the bbc are showing that they are happy with over representation. I didn’t suddenly look at motd and think wow too many black people. I just noticed after blm started that EVERY SINGLE show now has at least one black person on it, presenting or doing punditry.

This wasn’t the case before the blm protests and seems to be deliberate.

[DA Baracus]

4 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Wasn’t Sanjeev Kohli an integral part of setting up on the ball?

The bbc have actually publicly stated that they wanted to change motd to be less white. f**k me.

The issue being?

 

Just now, D.A.F.C said:

If you read the link the bbc are showing that they are happy with over representation. I didn’t suddenly look at motd and think wow too many black people. I just noticed after blm started that EVERY SINGLE show now has at least one black person on it, presenting or doing punditry.

This wasn’t the case before the blm protests and seems to be deliberate.

The issue being?

[D.A.F.C]

Just now, DA Baracus said:

The issue being?

 

The issue being?

That we want to be careful to not setup institutions that turn into the very thing that blm protesters are quite rightly protesting about.

[Bairnardo]

If you read the link the bbc are showing that they are happy with over representation. I didn’t suddenly look at motd and think wow too many black people. I just noticed after blm started that EVERY SINGLE show now has at least one black person on it, presenting or doing punditry.
This wasn’t the case before the blm protests and seems to be deliberate.

How many black presenters would it take to proportionately represent 3% of the population?

Let me ask you another question, instead of representing the population of the UK as a whole, what about in the case of MOTD how many black footballers are they analysing and discussing?

Isnt it fair to have them represented? England could field two strong international teams made up exclusively of black players. I hardly think a panel of 3 old white men is representative of what we are actually watching

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Did you ever complain about black people being underrepresented on television? Ever?

[D.A.F.C]

1 minute ago, Bairnardo said:

How many black presenters would it take to proportionately represent 3% of the population?

Let me ask you another question, instead of representing the population of the UK as a whole, what about in the case of MOTD how many black footballers are they analysing and discussing?

Isnt it fair to have them represented? England could field two strong international teams made up exclusively of black players. I hardly think a panel of 3 old white men is representative of what we are actually watching

Is the premier league racist?

Why is there no British Asian players?

 

[Bairnardo]

Is the premier league racist?
Why is there no British Asian players?
 

Jesus f**k

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2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Did you ever complain about black people being underrepresented on television? Ever?

There's a joke in there about Crimewatch, but I'll let @D.A.F.Cmake it.

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1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said:

Is the premier league racist?

Why is there no British Asian players?

 

Seriously. Just stop.

[D.A.F.C]

4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Did you ever complain about black people being underrepresented on television? Ever?

In my life? Probably not.

I have complained about lack of mps and why an Asian neighbour never got any further in the police than bobby despite being in there for 30 plus years. I spoke with him about it, wasn’t easy.

Can’t think of many people who have complained about a lack of black people on telly tbh. I’ve never had that discussion even with black colleagues or friends tbh..

[D.A.F.C]

3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

There's a joke in there about Crimewatch, but I'll let @D.A.F.Cmake it.

The first genuinely racist comment on here tonight.

[Marshmallo]

Please log off

[Sergeant Wilson]

3 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

The first genuinely racist comment on here tonight.

It's a joke about racism actually.

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2 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

In my life? Probably not.

Never in your life have you been bothered about black people being under-represented but after three weeks of them being over-represented you're girning about it.

3 minutes ago, D.A.F.C said:

Can’t think of many people who have complained about a lack of black people on telly tbh. I’ve never had that discussion even with black colleagues or friends tbh..

It's sweet that you've gone down the "Some of my best friends are black" route but if you've seriously never been aware of the issue surrounding the lack of minority representation in popular culture then I question which planet you've been living on.

[Bairnardo]

Listen D.A.F.C, this is going to end up a pile on, and it's going to be a pile on because you are, deliberately or otherwise, saying some outrageous stuff. If I mind right you said before that you have had an issue with "dog with a bone" type stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but I do think maybe leave it for tonight.

I am saying this in the hope that you do come back on tomorrow, rather than carry on down this rabbit hole tonight and it ends up getting sillier than it is now.

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It's sweet that you've gone down the "Some of my best friends are black" route but if you've seriously never been aware of the issue surrounding the lack of minority representation in popular culture then I question which planet you've been living on.

If the next Dunfermline shirt ends up with black stripes slightly wider than the white ones he’s going to be inconsolable

[D.A.F.C]

It's sweet that you've gone down the "Some of my best friends are black" route but if you've seriously never been aware of the issue surrounding the lack of minority representation in popular culture then I question which planet you've been living on.

I think its relevant to mention that I think tokenism is a bad thing in a thread about institutional racism.
If you think that makes me racist then so be it.
The, do you care more than me, argument is about as bad as the mouth breathers who set off fireworks for the nhs then pile into pubs get wrecked and end up in a&e.
All my life I've been surrounded by black music and culture, I've never had any issue with under representation because I like it.
I do have a problem with racism and have witnessed it at football grounds in the late 80s and 90s. The way dunfermline fans treated Mark walters and cadette of falkirk was a disgrace. It was the same at every football ground.
Is there a racism problem in the uk, yes.
Was it as bad as it used to be, no.
Are some institutions racist, yes.
As bad as america, no.

If I thought I could make a difference i would but I don't know how to change the systems that have kept black and ethic minority out of top jobs. I do believe that simply putting more on tv isn't going to fix it. Especially at jobs like football pundit or weather presenter. Id like to see a black presenter of question time or news night.
Perhaps the head of bbc or a position that would provide real change. Make more programs showing what its like to be black and treated badly. Its not an easy thing to fix, when was the LA riots? 92?
Nothing has changed despite more representation.
We need to change the top, only white people can fix this because they have the power. Simply ticking boxes isn't going to solve it.
Make real change that will last, look at why there was the situation at the bbc that made it all white rather than fixing it with a crowbar.

[D.A.F.C]

Listen D.A.F.C, this is going to end up a pile on, and it's going to be a pile on because you are, deliberately or otherwise, saying some outrageous stuff. If I mind right you said before that you have had an issue with "dog with a bone" type stuff. Correct me if I'm wrong but I do think maybe leave it for tonight.

I am saying this in the hope that you do come back on tomorrow, rather than carry on down this rabbit hole tonight and it ends up getting sillier than it is now.

Youre right have posted the last thing.
Marshmallow has been red dotting me for over a month and has used this to accuse me of being a racist. Im not happy about it.