jimbaxters Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bankies Alive said: You mentioned Grade,The WoSFL is a senior league the same as the SPFL..The Juniors is a different Grade run by its own FA. Why are we allowed to play if we’re not seen as professional? The Govt said professional football ONLY. It's a fair point. If a club have decided themselves professional in order to be allowed to play then they must follow the guidelines for professional clubs. There's no dubiety there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 27 minutes ago, Bankies Alive said: If we weren’t classed as professional we wouldn’t be allowed to play at all. There is no grade,we’re not under the SJFA anymore. Wouldn't even matter on that last bit though. The SJFA is also defined as professional in player registration terms and was also given an exemption to proceed on that basis. In player registration terms the divide is professional or amateur depending on whether there are financial payments beyond expenses involved. What's more interesting maybe is why there are so many cranky people in WoS circles desperately trying to dream up reasons to put their own league into cold storage? This doesn't seem to be happening elsewhere in the Scottish game at the moment. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Wouldn't even matter on that last bit though. The SJFA is also defined as professional in player registration terms and was also given an exemption to proceed on that basis. In player registration terms the divide is professional or amateur depending on whether there are financial payments beyond expenses involved. What's more interesting maybe is why there are so many cranky people in WoS circles desperately trying to dream up reasons to put their own league into cold storage? This doesn't seem to be happening elsewhere in the Scottish game at the moment. Numbers are through the roof in Lanarkshire / Glssgow and rising, but it is deemed ok for hundreds of people to travel between Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Ayrshire and Dumfries. And before you start the only reason we don’t know how many have got the virus is because unlike in the SPFL no testing is taking place And yes I put the Championship, League 1 and 2 in the same category unless your tested you have no idea if your spreading the virus all over the place. Just seen the weather forecast for tomorrow will be interesting to see how getting changed outside with no showers at the end of the game goes Think more teams will call it a day next week. apart from the few how will undoubtably flout the rules and say f**k you jack im alright 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: Numbers are through the roof in Lanarkshire / Glssgow and rising, but it is deemed ok for hundreds of people to travel between Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Ayrshire and Dumfries. And before you start the only reason we don’t know how many have got the virus is because unlike in the SPFL no testing is taking place And yes I put the Championship, League 1 and 2 in the same category unless your tested you have no idea if your spreading the virus all over the place. Just seen the weather forecast for tomorrow will be interesting to see how getting changed outside with no showers at the end of the game goes Think more teams will call it a day next week. apart from the few how will undoubtably flout the rules and say f**k you jack im alright The football that has been played has had no fans present so it's just players, match officials and club officials who've moved around. Try comparing that with a visit to a shop or a pub or kids going to school or students to college and university. ..... so how many people have become infected due to football matches taking place this season? Serious question. Seems to me that football, in particular, has become the SG's scapegoat. Edited October 23, 2020 by Dev . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Dev said: The football that has been played has had no fans present so it's just players, match officials and club officials who've moved around. Try comparing that with a visit to a shop or a pub or kids going to school or students to college and university. ..... so how many people have become infected due to football matches taking place this season? Serious question. No idea unless there tested !!! Some could have mild symptoms ( not just footballers ) but make the decision to carry on regardless and infect others hence the rise in cases in Lanarkshire and Glasgow. . Don’t know about Glasgow but Wishaw Generals COVID wards are bursting at the seams. But that’s ok you carry on with your professional football. Think you were a professional club once but yous made an arse of it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaswork Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Lobby Dossar said: Numbers are through the roof in Lanarkshire / Glssgow and rising, but it is deemed ok for hundreds of people to travel between Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Ayrshire and Dumfries. And before you start the only reason we don’t know how many have got the virus is because unlike in the SPFL no testing is taking place And yes I put the Championship, League 1 and 2 in the same category unless your tested you have no idea if your spreading the virus all over the place. Just seen the weather forecast for tomorrow will be interesting to see how getting changed outside with no showers at the end of the game goes Think more teams will call it a day next week. apart from the few how will undoubtably flout the rules and say f**k you jack im alright Dear oh dear what a lot of nonsense and utter state to get in over the fact the vast majority of clubs in the west and everywhere else in the non league game are going to be playing games. As the guy above said its totally bizarre that the only people who don't want to make a go of things are a tiny handful of west clubs. Like many of your type you are raging that more clubs haven't pulled like you expected and desperate for more to do so to somehow try justify the decision your own club made to bin football for another year after seven months already out. Its a small close knit world at clubs like your own, no doubt you have been in the ear of the gow committee feeding them over the top scare stories to get them to bin football . How is it the saying goes along the lines of .... thank god people like you weren't about during the war or we'd have been in trouble ... meekly giving in without even a fight when faced with adversity thankfully isn't how most people are programmed. Edited October 23, 2020 by gaswork -4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, gaswork said: Dear oh dear what a lot of nonsense and utter state to get in over the fact the vast majority of clubs in the west and everywhere else in the non league game are going to be playing games. As the guy above said its totally bizarre that the only people who don't want to make a go of things are a tiny handful of west clubs. Like many of your type you are raging that more clubs haven't pulled like you expected and desperate for more to do so to somehow try justify the decision your own club made to bin football for another year after seven months already out. Its a small close knit world at clubs like your own, no doubt you have been in the ear of the gow committee feeding them over the top scare stories to get them to bin football . How is it the saying goes along the lines of .... thank god people like you weren't about during the war or we'd have been in trouble ... meekly giving in without even a fight when faced with adversity thankfully isn't how most people are programmed. The team that I watch when my SPFL team are away from home are continuing to play. That decision was made by the committee but was not a unanimous decision. Watch this space and see how many more clubs pullout before 14th November once they realise that it is not financially viable to play on for a season with nothing to show at the end of it. Edited October 23, 2020 by Lobby Dossar 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, gogsy said: You mean unlike all the other outdoor events that aren't happening at the moment? No. Since pre-season. It's the biggest outside sporting activity, isn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 If clubs are trying to use this as the guidelines that apply to them they in cloud cockoo land !!!! These guidelines are fo SPFL clubs not clubs in our grade where most are run by willing volunteers who give up there own time for their clubs !!!! Get real people there is no way this applies to any clubs in our grade … … you can kid o were professional but in 99% of cases were nowhere near it That's where you're wrong. I can't answer for the WoS, but clubs in the EoS have guidance from the SFA over photographers, filming etc and they are largely as has been posted.At our game last Saturday there was someone filming, and a photographer, also a local reporter.Tomorrow at our home game it will be largely the same, upto 2 photographers, possibly someone filming, and the local sports reporter will be there as well. The clubs Covid officer is there to direct them as neccesary to ensure they stay within the correct zones. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToffeeTalbot Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 No fans permitted inside sports stadia until we are at level 0 or level 1. Will this news effect any clubs going forward who voted to start? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Lobby Dossar said: Numbers are through the roof in Lanarkshire / Glssgow and rising, but it is deemed ok for hundreds of people to travel between Lanarkshire, Glasgow, Ayrshire and Dumfries. And before you start the only reason we don’t know how many have got the virus is because unlike in the SPFL no testing is taking place And yes I put the Championship, League 1 and 2 in the same category unless your tested you have no idea if your spreading the virus all over the place. Just seen the weather forecast for tomorrow will be interesting to see how getting changed outside with no showers at the end of the game goes Think more teams will call it a day next week. apart from the few how will undoubtably flout the rules and say f**k you jack im alright ^^^ never played on a public park on a Sunday. Rain sleet or snow. Even with jeans and Auld gutties on. Then walked home in same clobber covered in mud. Stick to fifa on device. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, ToffeeTalbot said: No fans permitted inside sports stadia until we are at level 0 or level 1. Will this news effect any clubs going forward who voted to start? Anyone that was looking to start expecting fans in this year would have been daft. Having a framework back in place for when things may open up is more good than bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 23 minutes ago, ToffeeTalbot said: No fans permitted inside sports stadia until we are at level 0 or level 1. Will this news effect any clubs going forward who voted to start? Think the question would be more whether some of the clubs that panicked will now want back in given there is now clarity on how fans will get back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: Think the question would be more whether some of the clubs that panicked will now want back in given there is now clarity on how fans will get back. You can't really believe that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, lithgierose said: ^^^ never played on a public park on a Sunday. Rain sleet or snow. Even with jeans and Auld gutties on. Then walked home in same clobber covered in mud. Stick to fifa on device. Yip many’s the time … … BUT not in a so called professional league 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, jimbaxters said: You can't really believe that. Honestly, yes. As was the case back in March-May an epidemic peak normally only lasts two to three months in any particular locality. Most WoS games could easily have paying spectators now by New Year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clash city rocker Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Honestly, yes. As was the case back in March-May an epidemic peak normally only lasts two to three months in any particular locality. Most WoS games could easily have paying spectators now by New Year. You may be correct and that is why sensible clubs wanted to wait 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glass ceiling Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 Guidance out this afternoon about changing facilities - we should be able to access soon enough 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 hours ago, gogsy said: You mean unlike all the other outdoor events that aren't happening at the moment? Maybe you're right but doesn't look much like it when covid hasn't been halted or held back by the SG policy re football. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny*******Powers Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 St Mirren with another game postponed due to Covid, and that’s them being tested regularly, and yet the WoS starting tomorrow with no testing. Can only see it ending in disaster. I’ve a funny feeling the clubs who voted to postpone the season are going to have the last laugh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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