Sergeant Wilson Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: Has GordonS got hold of Oaksofts password? The energy is identical Where is Gordon? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, virginton said: As we're literally establishing right now with this story, just because something makes the news does not mean it is an authentic event. What are the police estimates for 'microinjections' as a source of spiking incidents? How many people have been charged and convicted of this act over the past 20 years? No official figures for you but ive never ever seen a case of someone microinjected with a drug in the sense described. I have heard of several occasions of drink spikings, with generally either tablets of ghb liquids used. The idea of using a syringe in the middle of a night club seems bizarre. 1 hour ago, oaksoft said: What do victims of rape, domestic abuse, sexual assault, upskirting, sexual harassment, child abuse and drinks spiking/nijections in nightclubs all have in common? They have to suffer the default response to them going public about their ordeal, responders who are almost exclusively men, of derision, doubt, attacks on their character and accusations of attention seeking. You can spot a c**t a mile off by their attitudes to other people and unsurprisingly, most of them have dicks. Sorry, but ive helped unfortunately hundreds of victims of sexual assaults, at no time have i ever ‘doubted their character or accused them of seeking attention’. Also legislation passed in Scotland allows victims of sexual offences to specifically request a female police officer to speak with. Victims are not ‘disbelieved’ or dismissed off hand, thats absolutely crap and adds to people feeling like there is no point reporting sexual assaults etc due to fears of this stigma which doesnt actually exist. Some times sexual assault/rape can’t be detected through a lack of corroboration or other evidence and its absolutely horrible but this narrative that no one could be bothered investigating etc is absolutely not what happens in reality. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Sorry, but ive helped unfortunately hundreds of victims Could they not find anybody better? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Could they not find anybody better? Lol i was actually pretty good at it!haha. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: No official figures for you but ive never ever seen a case of someone microinjected with a drug in the sense described. I have heard of several occasions of drink spikings, with generally either tablets of ghb liquids used. The idea of using a syringe in the middle of a night club seems bizarre. Sorry, but ive helped unfortunately hundreds of victims of sexual assaults, at no time have i ever ‘doubted their character or accused them of seeking attention’. Also legislation passed in Scotland allows victims of sexual offences to specifically request a female police officer to speak with. Victims are not ‘disbelieved’ or dismissed off hand, thats absolutely crap and adds to people feeling like there is no point reporting sexual assaults etc due to fears of this stigma which doesnt actually exist. Some times sexual assault/rape can’t be detected through a lack of corroboration or other evidence and its absolutely horrible but this narrative that no one could be bothered investigating etc is absolutely not what happens in reality. I had many worries about reporting to police, took me 16 months, but I have to say they were really good. Despite some of the things I had to divulge, I never felt judged. I also felt they did everything they could to investigate. I was realistic in regards to outcome from start but I'm on record and if that means it helps another person in future even better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Where is Gordon? Let's just enjoy the place before the professional ambulance-chasing returns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Just now, RH33 said: I had many worries about reporting to police, took me 16 months, but I have to say they were really good. Despite some of the things I had to divulge, I never felt judged. I also felt they did everything they could to investigate. I was realistic in regards to outcome from start but I'm on record and if that means it helps another person in future even better. Im so sorry you were ever in the position that you had to report something, but im glad to hear you had a positive (well not positive but you know what I mean) experience. Its so important to report that kind of thing because it can help with potential moorov or howden detections (as offenders rarely change this type of behaviour) and can assist protect others with things like the DSDAS scheme to help warn future partners of someones history of abuse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, virginton said: Let's just enjoy the place before the professional ambulance-chasing returns. Is he on one of his sabbaticals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Is he on one of his sabbaticals? I didn't know he was a minister. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Is he on one of his sabbaticals? Maybe the law caught up with him. Clear a case of protesting too much I've ever seen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I've seen many a friend, guys and girls, say they "must have been spiked" when out and drinking too much. Luckily it's always been an occasion where we've all been somewhere or at an event and stayed together. Very unnerving that is does happen. Suspect a lot of folk will have seen their friends like mine and that's where the doubt comes from. Not having the injection stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) No doubt that drink spiking happens, but I've heard so many young lassies say they had their drink spiked and the only evidence they have is that they suddenly became very pished. Youngsters don't tend to keep track of how much they drink and are not aware of their own limits. The amount that young folk drink is astonishing, and they're physically unprepared for it and don't want to readily accept the consequences of it. Reaching for the possibility that someone added something to their drink (with no evidence except them being suddenly paralytic) means that they don't have to be tarred with the "can't handle their drink" label which is akin to pariah status. As I said, for sure it happens, but the extent of it is exaggerated. Edited October 21, 2021 by velo army 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuckleMoo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 How easy is it to get your hands on needles? I take it you can't just rock up to the local chemist and buy them over the counter. Asking as I genuinely don't have a clue, and no, I'm not asking for a friend! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH33 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, velo army said: No doubt that drink spiking happens, but I've heard so many young lassies say they had their drink spiked and the only evidence they have is that they suddenly became very pished. Youngsters don't tend to keep track of how much they drink and are not aware of their own limits. The amount that young folk drink is astonishing, and they're physically unprepared for it and don't want to readily accept the consequences of it. Reaching for the possibility that someone added something to their drink (with no evidence except them being suddenly paralytic) means that they don't have to be tarred with the "can't handle their drink" label which is akin to pariah status. As I said, for sure it happens, but the extent of it is exaggerated. I was having a similar off board conversation with someone last night along these lines. I was mid 30's when it happened to me. It was very different to when I've been totally hammered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 How easy is it to get your hands on needles? I take it you can't just rock up to the local chemist and buy them over the counter. Asking as I genuinely don't have a clue, and no, I'm not asking for a friend!Pretty sure if you can source whatever they're injecting someone with they can source needles. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 What type of needles are we talking here? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 What type of needles are we talking here?Knitting needles obviously 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Empty It said: 28 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: What type of needles are we talking here? Knitting needles obviously Oh ok. You are a p***k. My mistake, I thought maybe someone knew a bit more than me about what type of needles these folk were claimed to have used. Any one else got a clue? I canny imagine them running about with a covid vaccine style needle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Busta Nut said: Oh ok. You are a p***k. My mistake, I thought maybe someone knew a bit more than me about what type of needles these folk were claimed to have used. Any one else got a clue? I canny imagine them running about with a covid vaccine style needle. Yer bog standard typical syringe would be incredibly obvious so i cant see it being that. That said for a smaller needle and the volume of fluid required to hurt someone it just seems difficult to work out how anyone would decide to do that. Edited October 21, 2021 by Inanimate Carbon Rod 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 2 hours ago, RH33 said: I was having a similar off board conversation with someone last night along these lines. I was mid 30's when it happened to me. It was very different to when I've been totally hammered. And I believe you. I had a friend to whom this happened too, in her early thirties. I'm not attempting to gaslight or minimise the experience of those to whom this has happened. I'm saying that amongst the younger ones (I was a mature student very recently and also worked in hospitality with a load of 19/20 year old lassies) it's a go to excuse for being paralytic which was better explained by them frankly drinking too much, not eating, or drinking loads and then going out into the cold air. I'd heard it from the lads too. The reality is they're not keeping track of how much they're drinking and their bodies aren't used to it. As I said, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, I'm suggesting that it happens less than is being reported. I'm sorry it happened to you. My mate, thankfully, just got roofied and her pals took her home. No further harm came to her. Scary stuff though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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