sophia Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 The cream go to Westminster. The tory party have big beasts. I'm so glad that they might be out of power for the next few years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 12 hours ago, welshbairn said: Snowflakery of the highest order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuMoore Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 He's not even trying to hide his disdain. It can't be pointed out enough how even The Thick Of It would struggle to come up with these moments. Get these horrible c***s emptied ASAP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 36 minutes ago, RuMoore said: He's not even trying to hide his disdain. It can't be pointed out enough how even The Thick Of It would struggle to come up with these moments. Get these horrible c***s emptied ASAP. He probably thought, like I did, that she was about to rant about the new quality street wrappers. Wasn’t her though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 2 hours ago, RuMoore said: He's not even trying to hide his disdain. It can't be pointed out enough how even The Thick Of It would struggle to come up with these moments. Get these horrible c***s emptied ASAP. If he were ever going to learn anything from Johnson, he'd have to know that he needs a large fridge available at all times. Basics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Corporate criminals have nothing to fear from this government. Quote HMRC has not charged a single company over tax evasion under landmark legislation Powers bestowed by the Criminal Finances Act 2017 are not being used effectively, say critics 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 I've been looking for this quote - "I've been crystal clear repeatedly that I won't let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off and getting this deterrent up and running," Sunak said, according to Sky News. "The bill specifically contains a power that makes clear that ministers are the ones that make these decisions. Parliament has supported that." "[The bill also] makes it perfectly clear that the domestic courts should respect that decision. I would not have put that clause in the bill if I was not prepared to use it. So, look, if you're asking me are there circumstances in which I will ignore rule 39, then the answer is clearly yes." Heard this a couple of days ago and I was half listening to it on BBC, the word foreign caught my attention when used in this context. Doesn't it make you proud to be British standing up to and ignoring these pesky foreign senior courts with their soft feather bed liberal ideals? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 hour ago, Artie said: I've been looking for this quote - "I've been crystal clear repeatedly that I won't let a foreign court stop us from getting flights off and getting this deterrent up and running," Sunak said, according to Sky News. According to the Acts of Union 1707, Article XIX preserves the independence of Scotland's legal system. According to Rishi, therefore, Scotland can ignore decisions of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom. Well, you can't have your cake & eat it, can you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) Looks like tomorrow the House of Lords will be discussing the UK-Rwanda treaty before moving onto the bill's second reading on the 29th. Be interesting to see if the House of Lords understand the implications of breaking one of the core principles of International Law, the UK Government already prepared to break our own law on Non-Refoulement with no shits given. Cleverly's Safety of Rwanda (Asylum and Immigration ) Bill looks good on paper to those eyes that needed to be convinced but once those planes touch down it might very well be a completely different story out of sight from the British public. All very well reassuring, but how many more lies and smoke screens by the current UKG does it take to convince everyone that, its not going to be alright, its never going to be alright. we are seeing the erosion of core laws that are in place to protect human rights just because a dozen or so politicians take illegal migrants landing on our shores personally. It shows up even our own rights in the UK are fragile and at the whim of our politicians, we know this from the pandemic. Edited January 21 by Artie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, Artie said: It shows up even our own rights in the UK are fragile and at the whim of our politicians, we know this from the pandemic. What rights are still eroded from the pandemic response? Off the top of my head I can only think of drinking on trains. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 15 minutes ago, Left Back said: What rights are still eroded from the pandemic response? Off the top of my head I can only think of drinking on trains. You mentioned still eroded from the pandemic response, I didn't. Drinking on trains couldn't really be described as a right? Unless you are one of these people that argue the toss with rail staff about it because they can't go a full hour without alcohol passing their lips. Maybe they should ban alcohol in Parliament, some of these decisions and that behaviour from our politicians jeeezz.? Explains a lot. Doubt there was ever a ban on alcohol there during the pandemic. I'm right in a ranty f**king mood today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 4 minutes ago, Artie said: You mentioned still eroded from the pandemic response, I didn't. Drinking on trains couldn't really be described as a right? Unless you are one of these people that argue the toss with rail staff about it because they can't go a full hour without alcohol passing their lips. Maybe they should ban alcohol in Parliament, some of these decisions and that behaviour from our politicians jeeezz.? Explains a lot. Doubt there was ever a ban on alcohol there during the pandemic. I'm right in a ranty f**king mood today Rights were eroded during the pandemic response. You can argue whether it was too much or too little but it was for a specific purpose and has proven to be time bound mostly. Drinking on trains was something I could legally do before the pandemic. It was taken away during the pandemic and hasn't been restored so yes, I'd class that as an erosion of rights. The pandemic was used as an reason (rightly or wrongly) to deny something to people on the whims of politicians that didn't agree with it and has been spun into something else and not restored when that reason no longer existed.. Your "full hour" comment has been shown to be moronic on this forum many times before so I won't bother explaining why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 7 minutes ago, Left Back said: Rights were eroded during the pandemic response. You can argue whether it was too much or too little but it was for a specific purpose and has proven to be time bound mostly. Drinking on trains was something I could legally do before the pandemic. It was taken away during the pandemic and hasn't been restored so yes, I'd class that as an erosion of rights. The pandemic was used as an reason (rightly or wrongly) to deny something to people on the whims of politicians that didn't agree with it and has been spun into something else and not restored when that reason no longer existed.. Your "full hour" comment has been shown to be moronic on this forum many times before so I won't bother explaining why. Good post, we'll agree to disagree. who else posted the full hour comment, just out of interest? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 3 hours ago, Artie said: Good post, we'll agree to disagree. who else posted the full hour comment, just out of interest? It's been brought up regularly when discussing drinking on trains or at football and someone always plays the "if you can't go x amount of time without a drink you've got a problem" card as justification for why it shouldn't be allowed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, Left Back said: It's been brought up regularly when discussing drinking on trains or at football and someone always plays the "if you can't go x amount of time without a drink you've got a problem" card as justification for why it shouldn't be allowed. I don't remember a time when we were allowed to drink at a football match? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Artie said: I don't remember a time when we were allowed to drink at a football match? Banned after the riot at a cup final. 1980 (I think) so most people won't. Gets brought up and discussed allowing it again occasionally. Was certainly discussed when Hampden was hosting games at the last Euros. Can't remember the exact details but possibly the only venue in use where you couldn't have an alcoholic drink at all. In England you can as long as you aren't in view of the pitch. ETA https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/humza-yousaf-addresses-scottish-football-27031697 Edited January 21 by Left Back 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Flag Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 1 minute ago, Left Back said: Banned after the riot at a cup final. 1980 (I think) so most people won't. Gets brought up and discussed allowing it again occasionally. Was certainly discussed when Hampden was hosting games at the last Euros. Can't remember the exact details but possibly the only venue in use where you couldn't have an alcoholic drink at all. In England you can as long as you aren't in view of the pitch. I believe something like this was discussed a few years ago on this forum in Scotland you have access inside a ground to a supporters bar to buy a pint at half-time and you can drink alcohol as long as you stay in the bar. Not including hospitality. I've been in hospitality a few times and a few of us were told not to drink in front of the window watching the game and not put our drinks on the window sill. I think it was a few big games in the mid-late 70's pitch invasions were blamed on alcohol rather than the people who couldn't help themselves. Scotland v England and an OF cup final springs to mind. Back then everyone drank like a sink plug hole and smoked like a chimney. We still get odd pitch invasion but generally most of us are a little on the large size these days so tend to get stuck on the boundary climbing over so easy pickings for the stewards or police. Sad sight when Boi's had one too many pizza and falls over the boundary and can't get up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, Left Back said: Banned after the riot at a cup final. 1980 (I think) so most people won't. Gets brought up and discussed allowing it again occasionally. Was certainly discussed when Hampden was hosting games at the last Euros. Can't remember the exact details but possibly the only venue in use where you couldn't have an alcoholic drink at all. In England you can as long as you aren't in view of the pitch. ETA https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/humza-yousaf-addresses-scottish-football-27031697 I can remember taking a couple of cans to Hampden for games in the 70's. In those days they weren't made out of aluminium and I could drink them then stand on them to get a better view! On the drinking on trains issue, although I accept that it was removed at the time of the pandemic, on the whole I'm not particularly bothered. I used to be a pretty frequent traveller on evening trains between Glasgow and Inverness or Aberdeen. It wasn't unusual to be near absolute arseholes who treated a few hours on the train like a night out in the pub, sometimes leading to arguments and even fights and it certainly wasn't pleasant for other passengers. On my occasional long distance trips now, I'm glad it's a no-no. Apart from that if the companies don't want their customers to drink on trains I think it's fair enough for them to decide that. Their staff have to deal with the passengers and the resulting mess. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 5 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: I can remember taking a couple of cans to Hampden for games in the 70's. In those days they weren't made out of aluminium and I could drink them then stand on them to get a better view! On the drinking on trains issue, although I accept that it was removed at the time of the pandemic, on the whole I'm not particularly bothered. I used to be a pretty frequent traveller on evening trains between Glasgow and Inverness or Aberdeen. It wasn't unusual to be near absolute arseholes who treated a few hours on the train like a night out in the pub, sometimes leading to arguments and even fights and it certainly wasn't pleasant for other passengers. On my occasional long distance trips now, I'm glad it's a no-no. Apart from that if the companies don't want their customers to drink on trains I think it's fair enough for them to decide that. Their staff have to deal with the passengers and the resulting mess. If companies don’t want alcohol on their premises that’s their prerogative. It’s not companies that decided this though. It’s the government. Toys went everywhere from SG when LNER said “we’re an English company, we’ll follow English laws”. That being said I genuinely have no idea what Scotrail’s stance was before being taken back under government control. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 It is legal to drink on trains. You can do so on non Scotrail services. LNER even have bars on some of their trains. Its only Scotrail who don't allow alcohol on their trains, although this is widely ignored anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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