Luddite Posted November 7, 2023 Share Posted November 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, bennett said: Weren’t Celtic very close to ending up in group F with Dortmund, PSG and Milan? Landed in probably the most favourable group for a Pot 4 team . Some conspiracy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 But but some random Spanish person said that the Celtic fans made a good atmosphere for a small club so the score was actually 6-6. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 9 hours ago, jagfox said: Looks like Atletico just love thrashing Irish teams in Europe! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Monkey Tennis said: Remember in his last stint, when some journalist asked Rodgers at a press conference, about the financial gulf between his side and other Scottish ones, after he'd been moaning about another European hammering. He simply argued that it was different, but didn't even attempt an explanation as to why. I just love it when they get thrashed in games like tonight's. No downside at all, except of course that they get an immense fortune for literally making up the numbers. I remember a press conference where he said Scottish football should be supporting them because them getting into CL brings money to the rest. The fact that the money is divided £30m to Celtic and £100k each to the rest is totally lost on him and supporters of these clubs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ahemps said: I remember a press conference where he said Scottish football should be supporting them because them getting into CL brings money to the rest. The fact that the money is divided £30m to Celtic and £100k each to the rest is totally lost on him and supporters of these clubs. Maybe you should throw gold bars like the Dormund fans did M8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, willywastecoat said: Maybe you should throw gold bars like the Dormund fans did M8. Used to like them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 I'm glad Celtic will never park the bus in Europe even if it means results like this,the disparity between a 2-2 and a 6-0 has got nothing to do with budgets. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: I'm glad Celtic will never park the bus in Europe even if it means results like this,the disparity between a 2-2 and a 6-0 has got nothing to do with budgets. This viewpoint probably highlights why Celtic will likely continue to under-perform in Europe. Rather than set up pragmatically, there are too many that demand to see Celtic play a certain way even if that leads to an inferior result. It's just madness in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 1 minute ago, AJF said: This viewpoint probably highlights why Celtic will likely continue to under-perform in Europe. Rather than set up pragmatically, there are too many that demand to see Celtic play a certain way even if that leads to an inferior result. It's just madness in my opinion. St Brendan changed tactics about 4 times during that game last night it was not madness M8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: St Brendan changed tactics about 4 times during that game last night it was not madness M8. I was referring to your claim of: 25 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: I'm glad Celtic will never park the bus in Europe even if it means results like this If parking the bus may potentially yield a better result, why would you be against it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 24 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: I'm glad Celtic will never park the bus in Europe even if it means results like this,the disparity between a 2-2 and a 6-0 has got nothing to do with budgets. The ability to defend intelligently and adapt tactics to the demands of the opposition are as much a hallmark of great teams and great coaches as free flowing attacking football. That's why Celtic have not been a truly great team since at least the reign of wee Gordon and young Mr Lennon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 23 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: I'm glad Celtic will never park the bus in Europe even if it means results like this,the disparity between a 2-2 and a 6-0 has got nothing to do with budgets. Looking from the outside I think that last night showed that minus Maeda Celtic have very little pace or physical presence in the forward areas - you can get away with that in mediocre league in Scotland, but not at the top level in Europe. They also have a number of players who have been getting smoke blown up their arse by the Scottish fitba media but who turn out to be alarmingly ordinary against quality opposition. So another year of 'win the league, rinsed in Europe, and repeat'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Looking from the outside I think that last night showed that minus Maeda Celtic have very little pace or physical presence in the forward areas - you can get away with that in mediocre league in Scotland, but not at the top level in Europe. They also have a number of players who have been getting smoke blown up their arse by the Scottish fitba media but who turn out to be alarmingly ordinary against quality opposition. So another year of 'win the league, rinsed in Europe, and repeat'. So the 2-2 was a fluke? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 8 minutes ago, AJF said: I was referring to your claim of: If parking the bus may potentially yield a better result, why would you be against it? It's not about results,Celtic will never sack a manager on European results M8. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 A Celtic fan on Talksport just whinging about Ange leaving for a lesser team Ange has likely quadrupled his wage and is in a far more competitive league with far better players and world class facilities. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 2 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: It's not about results,Celtic will never sack a manager on European results M8. What is it about then if it's not about results? And I haven't said Celtic should sack Rodgers based on European results, I am asking why you'd be against parking the bus if it meant you may potentially pick up more points in the CL? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 16 minutes ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Looking from the outside I think that last night showed that minus Maeda Celtic have very little pace or physical presence in the forward areas - you can get away with that in mediocre league in Scotland, but not at the top level in Europe. They also have a number of players who have been getting smoke blown up their arse by the Scottish fitba media but who turn out to be alarmingly ordinary against quality opposition. So another year of 'win the league, rinsed in Europe, and repeat'. Every Cetlic player IMO, not just a number of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willywastecoat Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, AJF said: What is it about then if it's not about results? And I haven't said Celtic should sack Rodgers based on European results, I am asking why you'd be against parking the bus if it meant you may potentially pick up more points in the CL? The Celtic way is an identity and successful, nothing is guaranteed, parking the bus and still getting beat is a diddy mentality. -6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, AJF said: What is it about then if it's not about results? And I haven't said Celtic should sack Rodgers based on European results, I am asking why you'd be against parking the bus if it meant you may potentially pick up more points in the CL? Football fans are fickle as anything and will support their 'strategy' just as they will their team against anything. If Celtic were sh*tfesting to draws and wins in Europe against better teams and going deeper in these tournaments they absolutely would take it and embrace it and phrase it as it is what they need to do and there would be nothing wrong with that. However they are getting pumped with a 'footballing philosophy' but embrace that as the way to play. Celtic fans reminisce about beating Barcelona in 2012 (Tony Watt goal) I believe they had about 16% possession and 3 shots on goal. Will fans really remember the 3-0 Real Madrid loss in 20yrs time because they played in a certain manner????? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahemps Posted November 8, 2023 Share Posted November 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, willywastecoat said: The Celtic way is an identity and successful, nothing is guaranteed, parking the bus and still getting beat is a diddy mentality. You still don't realise that you are the diddy at this level. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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