VincentGuerin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 (edited) Hi @craigkillieIn the spirit of being truly boring, I've decided to investigate the extremely important issue of injury time in 1997-98 to see how well-founded the Bobby Tait's Masonic Watch memory is. I've just chosen a random selection of games from 97/98 to check the second half injury time. Annoyingly, a few games I've found are copies that don't have the running clock. Here's the league games I clicked on at random and that had a clock. Leeds v West Ham, November 97 - 1 minutes 31 seconds Newcastle v Liverpool, December 97 - 50 seconds Celtic v Rangers, January 98 - 1 minute 27 seconds St Johnstone v Rangers, January 98 - I min 26 seconds Derby v Leeds, March 98 - 43 seconds So, it is my considered view that Bobby Tait's watch was a mason. If anybody else on this website considers themselves a boring b*****d, I've just set the new standard. Come at me. All joking aside, it is interesting that the standardising of injury time with subs, goals etc does seem to have lengthened games. Edited February 9, 2022 by VincentGuerin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, VincentGuerin said: Hi @craigkillieIn the spirit of being truly boring, I've decided to investigate the extremely important issue of injury time in 1997-98 to see how well-founded the Bobby Tait's Masonic Watch memory is. I've just chosen a random selection of games from 97/98 to check the second half injury time. Annoyingly, a few games I've found are copies that don't have the running clock. Here's the league games I clicked on at random and that had a clock. Leeds v West Ham, November 97 - 1 minutes 31 seconds Newcastle v Liverpool, December 97 - 50 seconds Celtic v Rangers, January 98 - 1 minute 27 seconds St Johnstone v Rangers, January 98 - I min 26 seconds Derby v Leeds, March 98 - 43 seconds So, it is my considered view that Bobby Tait's watch was a mason. If anybody else on this website considers themselves a boring b*****d, I've just set the new standard. Come at me. All joking aside, it is interesting that the standardising of injury time with subs, goals etc does seem to have lengthened games. What about the Cup Final from that season, chief? Think it was officially five minutes, but it felt like about ten. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kyle Reese said: What about the Cup Final from that season, chief? Think it was officially five minutes, but it felt like about ten. I believe it was about six months. Big games like cup finals did tend to be different. Just checked. 98 cup final was four and a half minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Just now, VincentGuerin said: I believe it was about six months. Big games like cup finals did tend to be different. Just checked. 98 cup final was four and a half minutes. Now, it may have been because I was a shambling wreck by the time the whistle blew, but that was never four and a half minutes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Injury time has become ludicrous in England, you regularly see goals at 90+7, 90+9 pass without great comment, whereas not that long ago you would have needed 2 broken legs and a set of collapsed goalposts for that. I clearly remember in USA WC94, Scottish referee of some note, Les Mottram, reffed Greece v Nigeria. Nigeria scored in injury time in both halves; 45+2 and 90+4 IIRC. Nobody would blink at that now, but the Greeks were for tearing Les to pieces after the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ranaldo Bairn said: Injury time has become ludicrous in England, you regularly see goals at 90+7, 90+9 pass without great comment, whereas not that long ago you would have needed 2 broken legs and a set of collapsed goalposts for that. I clearly remember in USA WC94, Scottish referee of some note, Les Mottram, reffed Greece v Nigeria. Nigeria scored in injury time in both halves; 45+2 and 90+4 IIRC. Nobody would blink at that now, but the Greeks were for tearing Les to pieces after the game. Not like our Les to cause controversy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranaldo Bairn Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Yeah I deliberately avoided mentioning that clanger. He flounced off in a huff to Japan after getting excoriated for the DUFC decision, and to be fair he did very well over there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Given that we seem to be able to treat the rules as guidleines I'm going for the 2018 Scottish league cup penalty shoot out East Fife Four - Forfar Fife 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 & no I don’t consider Malmo my rivals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted February 9, 2022 Author Share Posted February 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gorgie greatness said: & no I don’t consider Malmo my rivals Post reported. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 6 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: I chose Rangers - Killie. You chose to lose the heid. Course you did yet another in a long line of boring hearts wallopers.................. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Leith Green said: Course you did yet another in a long line of boring hearts wallopers.................. You take this place way too seriously, man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 21 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: f**k league name changes. Funniest masonic-length injury time ever. 8 hours ago, VincentGuerin said: I chose Rangers - Killie. You chose to lose the heid. 1 hour ago, Leith Green said: Course you did 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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