ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Some people are saying that the majority of Russian men are now liable to be conscripted, under the definition given by Putin. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 This is just the next step of Putin's grand plan to make Donbas officially part of Russia and neo-Nazi free. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Others are saying it is limited to 2 million or so tops and they will only go after some of them. Looks more like the rules related to the SMO have been tightened up to make it more difficult to refuse to fight than an all out war footing in other words but really there's no easy answer on this stuff until we see what actually unfolds over the next couple of weeks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Some people are saying that the majority of Russian men are now liable to be conscripted, under the definition given by Putin.Indeed as they have national service that in theory covers vast majority. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Yeah, looks like also that contracted soldiers have had their contracts extended indefinitely to the end of the "Operation" In the short term its about plugging holes. Most Russian training is done in units that are already deployed. Turning the new forces into a cohesive fighting force is going to subsequently be pretty difficult, especially given Russia has burned through a lot of its more modern eqharduipment. The nuclear blackmail component of the speech is likely a bluff to try and choke off Western hardware to Ukraine. Having said that, if Ukraine can find the reserves to accelerate their operations into Lushansk and Kherson before Russian reserves appear, that would negate any effect the reserves might have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, superbigal said: 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Some people are saying that the majority of Russian men are now liable to be conscripted, under the definition given by Putin. Indeed as they have national service that in theory covers vast majority. Russian airports will be busy. A point in the decrees that is probably most important - all the 3 and 6 month contracts are extended indefinitely. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, renton said: Yeah, looks like also that contracted soldiers have had their contracts extended indefinitely to the end of the "Operation" In the short term its about plugging holes. Most Russian training is done in units that are already deployed. Turning the new forces into a cohesive fighting force is going to subsequently be pretty difficult, especially given Russia has burned through a lot of its more modern eqharduipment. The nuclear blackmail component of the speech is likely a bluff to try and choke off Western hardware to Ukraine. Having said that, if Ukraine can find the reserves to accelerate their operations into Lushansk and Kherson before Russian reserves appear, that would negate any effect the reserves might have. Putin to the contract soldiers 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elixir Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Putin's head: The desperate wee man has even waited until old Betty was finally planted in order to make his latest grand announcement, because he knows the global media is finally finished with that obsession and will go back to indulging his attention seeking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The general who is in charge of Russian logistics is phoning in sick about now.They are struggling to supply the forces in theatre now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Shiogu gave a speech with some details. Genuinely amazing lying going on here. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 10 minutes ago, ICTChris said: Shiogu gave a speech with some details. Genuinely amazing lying going on here. Huge fan of the 10 to 1 KIA ratio he's claiming there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Russian politico on Radio 4 going full Borat. Worth going to 0810 on the today programme for "Your Crazee Biden and Lizzzy Tress" Obviously the threats of a full strategic nuclear exchange were less chucklesome but, rough with the smooth etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, renton said: Huge fan of the 10 to 1 KIA ratio he's claiming there. If it wasn't so serious it would hilarious. Flights from Moscow to Istanbul sold out. Apparently some Russian airlines were offering a "take me anywhere" ticket yesterday where you paid and got on the first available flight to anywhere outside Russia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karpaty Lviv Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 300,000 more to be sent back to Russia in pillow cases. Sounds good to me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The press gang has started. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Google searches for "how to leave Russia" in Russia Prices of flights to Yerevan have gone up tenfold overnight. So if you can't afford a ticket, why not... Google searches for "how to break your arm" in Russia 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 General chit chat on News here. If Putin deploys a nuke there will be a immediate and massive nuclear counterstrike on Russia from Ukraine or it's western allies. Are there nukes in Ukraine? Also saying 5,937 "Russian" soldiers pan breid. Does that include soldiers from Chechnya, Dagastan and the Ukrainian separatists? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, dirty dingus said: General chit chat on News here. If Putin deploys a nuke there will be a immediate and massive nuclear counterstrike on Russia from Ukraine or it's western allies. Are there nukes in Ukraine? Also saying 5,937 "Russian" soldiers pan breid. Does that include soldiers from Chechnya, Dagastan and the Ukrainian separatists? There aren't any nukes in Ukraine. I don't know that much in detail but I think if Russia used a tactical nuclear weapon in Ukraine, NATO would intervene. Probably not with a nuclear strike of its own but with an overwhelming convential response. The 5937 soldiers killed is just a lie. The most conservative estimates have the total killed at around 25,000-30,000, with others putting it double that. The numbers are confused by the different branches fighting in Ukraine - you have the Russian Army, the Navy and Air Force; you have the Rosguardia, Russian National Guard; you have the LPR/DPR 'sepratists', who have been press ganged into serving and have taken heavy casualties; you have Wagner and other PMCs who have thousands fighting; you also have the GRU/FSB troops who are also fighting there. The Chechens seem to have taken relatively few casualties, perhaps as they are being held back from front lines due to their importance internally to the regime. Dagenstani troops seem to have taken proprotionally among the heaviest casualties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 4 hours ago, BFTD said: So is it finally a fucking war now, or what? The UK hasn't declared war on anyone since 1945. The USA also hasn't declared war on anyone since 1945. Post WW2 when the UN was set up the legal system created had built in consequences for countries who declare war so no one does it anymore. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 This is no bluff.” Transcript of Vladimir Putin’s announcement of ‘partial mobilisation’ laced with nuclear threats Putin's speech in English. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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