ICTChris Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Let’s hope Putin loses the election to an anti-invasion candidate! The UK Prime Minister have announced that the UK will provide Challenger 2 tanks to Ukraine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 20 minutes ago, jagfox said: :Putin is more a Tsar than a president. No way he loses an election IF it takes place. Even Navalny is a right wing nutjob, although he might not lst too long anyway. Alexei Navalny: Concern grows for health of jailed Putin critic I don't think Putin's as good at fixing elections as he thought he was, it's the reason he invaded Ukraine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I don't think Putin's as good at fixing elections as he thought he was, it's the reason he invaded Ukraine. Russia is not a democracy. The state has been built around Putin for over 20 years. He's going nowhere unless he dies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 minutes ago, jagfox said: Russia is not a democracy. The state has been built around Putin for over 20 years. He's going nowhere unless he dies. I agree it's unlikely but as soon as he's perceived as damaged goods his backers will be out the door. Even Stalin was supposedly left to die on the floor by his closest comrades. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I agree it's unlikely but as soon as he's perceived as damaged goods his backers will be out the door. Even Stalin was supposedly left to die on the floor by his closest comrades. He is surrounded by yes men and stooges and the full weight of the law and its custodians, armed forces, judiciary, police and secret services. The revolution will not be televised because it will not actually happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 minute ago, jagfox said: He is surrounded by yes men and stooges and the full weight of the law and its custodians, armed forces, judiciary, police and secret services. The revolution will not be televised because it will not actually happen. He's paid for that loyalty by transferring the wealth he confiscated from the likes of the kleptocrat Khodorkovsky to his ex KGB and FSB cronies, along with members of the connected criminal underworld like Prigozhin, whilst squirreling away vast amounts for his own retirement fund. I doubt his support network is unconditional, especially if his popularity drops along with his financial weight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 (edited) 56 minutes ago, welshbairn said: He's paid for that loyalty by transferring the wealth he confiscated from the likes of the kleptocrat Khodorkovsky to his ex KGB and FSB cronies, along with members of the connected criminal underworld like Prigozhin, whilst squirreling away vast amounts for his own retirement fund. I doubt his support network is unconditional, especially if his popularity drops along with his financial weight. Nobody will overthrow him though. How would that even be attempted? Wagner group aren't going to storm the Kremlin, are they? There is no effective threat to his rule. Edited January 14, 2023 by jagfox 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 This seems a bit farfetched: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 Are there any missiles that aren’t deadly? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, alta-pete said: Are there any missiles that aren’t deadly? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 14 hours ago, jagfox said: Nobody will overthrow him though. How would that even be attempted? ... It would most likely have to be his inner circles in a similar manner to how Khrushchev was ousted. There's a reason he got them all to say they supported his invasion special military operation on live television before it happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 2 hours ago, alta-pete said: Are there any missiles that aren’t deadly? Snowballs, as demonstrated by opposition corner kick takers at Pittodrie during the winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 16 hours ago, welshbairn said: Didn't realise there's a Russian presidential election in March next year. Normally candidates announce their candidacy in October, properly starting the campaigns. An ex Russian politician on C4 news thinks that if Ukraine manages to sever the Donbass-Crimea land bridge Putin's fucked. I suppose he could declare martial law and postpone it, but even if he loses, his replacement is likely to be someone even further to the Nationalist Right, unless Moscow starts losing the propaganda war internally with the death rate of conscripts seeping into public knowledge, and likely expansion of mobilisation. Have they not already counted the ballots? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Have they not already counted the ballots? They ,probably missed them due to being in someone's Spam folder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagfox Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 18 hours ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: They ,probably missed them due to being in someone's Spam folder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The apartment building in Dnipro appears to have been destroyed by a Russian anti-ship missile, designed to attack aircraft carriers. These missiles can’t be reliably shot down by current Ukrainian air defence but the Patriot systems due to be delivered in the next few months will be able to. The same type of missile was used on the daytime attack on a shopping mall in Kremenchuk several months ago. Current counts are that more than 10 people have been killed, likely to rise. Pro-Russia commentators have jumped on comments by a Ukrainian former presidential spokesman who said that Ukraine had shot down the missile and the debris caused the damage - this seems to be untrue and doesn’t match with the information that is currently available. The Russian MoD posted this on Telegram after the attack The text says “We load to the maximum”. Worth also remembering that around 10% of the population of Dnipro are refugees from the areas occupied by Russian troops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jagfox Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 Seems like Soledar is now under full Russian control. I assume UA withdrew their remaining forces. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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