TxRover Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 12 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: This just showed up in my twitter feed: https://twitter.com/Ayei_Eloheichem/status/1669355287839641600 2 unidentified European countries, with US backing, are reportedly set to purchase hundreds of old Merkava II and III tanks from Israel. I have a notion about where these tanks might end up, or at least where the tanks they'll be replacing will end up. Don't think you need to be a rocket scientist to figure out where they are likely to ultimately wind up or possibly where other tanks freed up by their arrival will wind up. Interesting option if provided to Ukraine. Better on the defence than the attack, due to slightly poorer mobility than contemporaries, but a very capable tank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 2 hours ago, TxRover said: Interesting option if provided to Ukraine. Better on the defence than the attack, due to slightly poorer mobility than contemporaries, but a very capable tank. @Sergeant Wilson is this right? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted June 16, 2023 Share Posted June 16, 2023 Quote Sanctions on Russia have failed to isolate it and instead led to an "expansion" in its trade with "the markets of the future", President Vladimir Putin says Reminds me of the pathetic Truss woman lauding post-Brexit trade deals with Nepal, Uzbekistan, her mum's hairdesser's pal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 What no posts for an entire day? Would this be a push for Mariupol or for Melitipol as they're both in the same general direction, no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Boris Johnson spent far too much time in Ukraine, and he is possibly implicated as NATO/USA's bagman in 'advising' Zelenskyy to rip up a peace treaty signed between Ukraine and Russia over a year ago. For all the shit Johnson's been involved in, this is potentially the worst, so far. I wonder if the mainsteam media will give in depth coverage the revelation of the treaty to a gathering of African leaders to Russia today, as witnessed by Cyril Ramaphosa and many others. Or is Putin just a big liar (in this case)? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted June 17, 2023 Share Posted June 17, 2023 Putin has lied at every turn, as much as I can't stand Boris, I would trust him over Putin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 hours ago, Ray Patterson said: What no posts for an entire day? Would this be a push for Mariupol or for Melitipol as they're both in the same general direction, no? I’d say they plan to push for Mariupol, then dive east or west of the city and drive to the coast. No point in trying to take the city, the best plan would be drive down the highway to Mariupol and then a slant east to cut the land connection to nearly all the Ukrainian coast for the Russians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, TxRover said: I’d say they plan to push for Mariupol, then dive east or west of the city and drive to the coast. No point in trying to take the city, the best plan would be drive down the highway to Mariupol and then a slant east to cut the land connection to nearly all the Ukrainian coast for the Russians. I hope you've told the Ukrainians that you've figured out the best plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennett Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Dundee Hibernian said: Boris Johnson spent far too much time in Ukraine, and he is possibly implicated as NATO/USA's bagman in 'advising' Zelenskyy to rip up a peace treaty signed between Ukraine and Russia over a year ago. For all the shit Johnson's been involved in, this is potentially the worst, so far. I wonder if the mainsteam media will give in depth coverage the revelation of the treaty to a gathering of African leaders to Russia today, as witnessed by Cyril Ramaphosa and many others. Or is Putin just a big liar (in this case)? Giving Ukraine the means to defend themselves is something that he got right. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaSpeedyPro Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 The Americans have a lot to answer for here. Installing bio labs all over Ukraine. Backing the coup of a democratically elected leader who just so happened to want closer more positive relationship with the Russian federation. Installing there own puppet leader instead . The most corrupt hopeless president in American history and his crime family sending hundreds of billions of American tax payers money to the most corrupt inept government in Europe to fight a proxy war with Russia all the while America is literally crumbling. A puppet globalist actor comedian now in 'charge' who has outlawed opposition political parties, arrests political opponents shuts down newspapers and TV stations that oppose him and even bans the Orthodox Catholic Church, says he's fighting " Tyranny". He refuses to denounce nazism in the countries military and government and there awful behaviour and practises in the Russian populated areas of donbass. There is no path for victory of any sort for Ukraine they have allowed themselves to become globalist America puppet plaything at the expense of its very existence. The Russian federation with take control of its lands in Donbass and protect it people there. It will keep control of its historic Crimea region and the rest of Ukraine will be a shell of a country and when trump takes over the white house in 2024 it will become a Moldova on a large scale. -11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 O.K., Ivan 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 49 minutes ago, bennett said: Giving Ukraine the means to defend themselves is something that he got right. I'm not going to argue with you, history will tell us if this is indeed the case: the point I was making concerns the media, and looking around newspaper and other media sites today, it looks like they don't want to report on this in any detail or at all. If it's a big lie/forgery that Putin is pushing, I thought someone would come out very quickly and refute this on the Western side, and it would be covered in major news sites. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, OmegaSpeedyPro said: The Americans have a lot to answer for here. Installing bio labs all over Ukraine. Well said, the sheeple need to wake up to what the hell's going on! Quote Konstantin Kosachev, the deputy speaker of Russia’s Federation Council, and Irina Yarovaya, deputy chair of the State Duma, touted what they described as bombshell findings from the “investigation.” Testing of Ukrainian POWs’ blood, they claimed, uncovered “a range of diseases” that suggest they were secretly experimented on “for military purposes.” “And we see: the cruelty and barbarity with which the military personnel of Ukraine behave, the crimes that they commit against the civilian population, those monstrous crimes that they commit against prisoners of war, confirm that this system for the control and creation of a cruel murder machine was implemented under the management of the United States,” Yarovaya was quoted telling reporters. “And those performance enhancing drugs that they are still given in order to completely neutralize the last traces of human consciousness and turn them into the most cruel and deadly monsters also confirm this,” she claimed. She also claimed that the presence of Hepatitis A antibodies in Ukrainian prisoners’ blood was proof of an American biolabs conspiracy, since a former health minister for Ukraine was a dual Ukrainian-American citizen who had worked to acquire drugs for the treatment of hepatitis in the country. “It is quite possible that this was about testing these drugs on military personnel,” Yarovaya said. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5469617 https://www.thedailybeast.com/russia-says-its-losing-because-ukraine-has-experimental-mutant-troops-created-in-secret-biolabss 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkmenbashi Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 13 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: I'm not going to argue with you, history will tell us if this is indeed the case: the point I was making concerns the media, and looking around newspaper and other media sites today, it looks like they don't want to report on this in any detail or at all. If it's a big lie/forgery that Putin is pushing, I thought someone would come out very quickly and refute this on the Western side, and it would be covered in major news sites. This isn't a new conspiracy -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 58 minutes ago, OmegaSpeedyPro said: The Americans have a lot to answer for here. Installing bio labs all over Ukraine. Backing the coup of a democratically elected leader who just so happened to want closer more positive relationship with the Russian federation. Installing there own puppet leader instead . The most corrupt hopeless president in American history and his crime family sending hundreds of billions of American tax payers money to the most corrupt inept government in Europe to fight a proxy war with Russia all the while America is literally crumbling. A puppet globalist actor comedian now in 'charge' who has outlawed opposition political parties, arrests political opponents shuts down newspapers and TV stations that oppose him and even bans the Orthodox Catholic Church, says he's fighting " Tyranny". He refuses to denounce nazism in the countries military and government and there awful behaviour and practises in the Russian populated areas of donbass. There is no path for victory of any sort for Ukraine they have allowed themselves to become globalist America puppet plaything at the expense of its very existence. The Russian federation with take control of its lands in Donbass and protect it people there. It will keep control of its historic Crimea region and the rest of Ukraine will be a shell of a country and when trump takes over the white house in 2024 it will become a Moldova on a large scale. Do they not teach the proper usage of their/there/they're on the Russian botfarms these days? Sad times. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, OmegaSpeedyPro said: The Americans have a lot to answer for here. Installing bio labs all over Ukraine. Backing the coup of a democratically elected leader who just so happened to want closer more positive relationship with the Russian federation. Installing there own puppet leader instead . The most corrupt hopeless president in American history and his crime family sending hundreds of billions of American tax payers money to the most corrupt inept government in Europe to fight a proxy war with Russia all the while America is literally crumbling. A puppet globalist actor comedian now in 'charge' who has outlawed opposition political parties, arrests political opponents shuts down newspapers and TV stations that oppose him and even bans the Orthodox Catholic Church, says he's fighting " Tyranny". He refuses to denounce nazism in the countries military and government and there awful behaviour and practises in the Russian populated areas of donbass. There is no path for victory of any sort for Ukraine they have allowed themselves to become globalist America puppet plaything at the expense of its very existence. The Russian federation with take control of its lands in Donbass and protect it people there. It will keep control of its historic Crimea region and the rest of Ukraine will be a shell of a country and when trump takes over the white house in 2024 it will become a Moldova on a large scale. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Been a while since we’ve had a few full on “bio labs and Nazis” guys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 12 hours ago, Ray Patterson said: What no posts for an entire day? Would this be a push for Mariupol or for Melitipol as they're both in the same general direction, no? Or split the difference and go for Berdiansk? As things stand the Russians need to keep the frontline not too far from where it is now so all three of those cities are outside easy HIMARS range to keep having a relatively secure land bridge to Crimea. The problem the Russians have is that it's only a matter of time until the 150 km range and relatively cheap GLSDB missiles for the HIMARS systems start to arrive. That will make holding the present frontline irrelevant on keeping the land bridge reasonably secure from missile attack and will lead to many more scenes like this (the Storm Shadows supplied by the UK that can do it now are much more expensive and limited in number so given that backdrop there's likely no need to be in a massive rush to reach the Sea of Azov right now from a Ukrainian standpoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dundee Hibernian said: I'm not going to argue with you, history will tell us if this is indeed the case: the point I was making concerns the media, and looking around newspaper and other media sites today, it looks like they don't want to report on this in any detail or at all. If it's a big lie/forgery that Putin is pushing, I thought someone would come out very quickly and refute this on the Western side, and it would be covered in major news sites. It's old news, and Putin hasn't published the draft treaty he showed the Africans. A few days after the March 2022 meeting in Istanbul the full scale of the Russian slaughter of civilians at Bucha came out, Boris didn't arrive till a week later when I suspect the deal was already dead, after Bucha any compromise on territory was off the table politically for Zelensky. Edited June 18, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 That OmegaSpeedyPro account looks like its AI advertising given the age and gender demographics of this site fits the target market for those watches. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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