welshbairn Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 The West has to take munition production more seriously. Quote Today, Russian officials have remade their economy to focus on defense production. With revenue from high energy prices, Russia’s security services and ministry of defense have been able to smuggle in the microelectronics and other Western materials required for cruise missiles and other precision guided weaponry. As a result, military production has not only recovered but surged. Before the war, one senior Western defense official said, Russia could make 100 tanks a year; now they are producing 200. Western officials also believe Russia is on track to manufacture two million artillery shells a year — double the amount Western intelligence services had initially estimated Russia could manufacture before the war. As a result of the push, Russia is now producing more ammunition than the United States and Europe. Overall, Kusti Salm, a senior Estonian defense ministry official, estimated that Russia’s current ammunition production is seven times greater than that of the West. Russia’s re-energized military production is especially worrisome because Moscow has used artillery to pound Ukrainian soldiers on the front lines, and its missiles to attack the electric grid and other critical infrastructure, and to terrorize civilians in cities. Officials fear that increased missile stocks could mean an especially dark and cold winter for Ukrainian citizens. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/09/13/us/politics/russia-sanctions-missile-production.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-russia-ukraine&variant=show®ion=MAIN_CONTENT_1&block=storyline_top_links_recirc 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 On 15/09/2023 at 17:59, GuyIncognito said: Hearing that President of Chechnya Ramzan Kadyrov has died. Just a rumour though. Miraculous recovery apparently.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 It’ll buff out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Patterson Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Is it bad that when seeing jokes about Kadyrov dying on Twitter, my first port of call is to come to P&B and see if @ICTChris has confirmed it or not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Other Foot Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Came here to see which side of the Nagorno-Karabakh divide gets @virginton hard. Nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 33 minutes ago, The Other Foot said: Came here to see which side of the Nagorno-Karabakh divide gets @virginton hard. Nothing. The U.S. has a few troops in Armenia right now doing a little exercise, so we can assume the Azerbaijani side…especially as they are Putin’s friends compared to the Armenians. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 47 minutes ago, TxRover said: The U.S. has a few troops in Armenia right now doing a little exercise, so we can assume the Azerbaijani side…especially as they are Putin’s friends compared to the Armenians. Would these be the Armenians who were literally reliant on Russia to prevent the current acts of genocide being carried out? Meanwhile, I see that the Ukrainian authorities may have been crying wolf again, following that 'Russian' missile that struck Poland a year ago and that definitely legit Russian attack on the Nord Stream pipelines as well: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/19/ukrainian-market-tragedy-may-have-been-caused-by-errant-missile-fired-by-ukraine 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 27 minutes ago, virginton said: Would these be the Armenians who were literally reliant on Russia to prevent the current acts of genocide being carried out? No, the Armenians who have invited U.S. military advisors in while distancing from Putin. Meanwhile, I notice you avoided the original enquiry... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 You might want to try going beyond page 1 of your latest Google search results chump. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 Claims that Ukraine are behind strikes on Wagner allied militias in Sudan. https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/19/africa/ukraine-military-sudan-wagner-cmd-intl/index.html 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 30 minutes ago, virginton said: You might want to try going beyond page 1 of your latest Google search results chump. Sorry if the facts bother your degreed self: https://apnews.com/article/armenia-azerbaijan-american-troops-drills-nagorno-karabakh-9bf6319025029ec1a68e19412508f37e 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 hours ago, virginton said: Would these be the Armenians who were literally reliant on Russia to prevent the current acts of genocide being carried out? Meanwhile, I see that the Ukrainian authorities may have been crying wolf again, following that 'Russian' missile that struck Poland a year ago and that definitely legit Russian attack on the Nord Stream pipelines as well: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/19/ukrainian-market-tragedy-may-have-been-caused-by-errant-missile-fired-by-ukraine Let me get this right. You're taking some perverse enjoyment of the Ukrainians possibly accidentally killing their own people while attempting to shoot down Russian missiles because you don't like someone on the forum? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 10 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: Let me get this right. You're taking some perverse enjoyment of the Ukrainians possibly accidentally killing their own people while attempting to shoot down Russian missiles because you don't like someone on the forum? Your point being? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Your point being? It wasn't a point, it was a question, hence the question mark. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Loonytoons said: It wasn't a point, it was a question, hence the question mark. It was still very pointed. I don't think you fully understand the importance of winning arguments or scoring points on the Internet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonytoons Posted September 19, 2023 Share Posted September 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It was still very pointed. I don't think you fully understand the importance of winning arguments or scoring points on the Internet. I thought I had with the "question mark" riposte. I must try harder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 8 hours ago, Loonytoons said: Let me get this right. You're taking some perverse enjoyment of the Ukrainians possibly accidentally killing their own people while attempting to shoot down Russian missiles because you don't like someone on the forum? No, you've literally made that all up. I take absolutely zero pleasure in western Europe's generational wealth being looted by US and Middle Eastern 'energy allies', to fight a forever war, in the name of a government that habitually lies for propagandistic effect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 9 hours ago, TxRover said: Sorry if the facts bother your degreed self: https://apnews.com/article/armenia-azerbaijan-american-troops-drills-nagorno-karabakh-9bf6319025029ec1a68e19412508f37e It's a doctorate not a degree champ, and the facts still extend beyond page 1 of your latest, desperate, Google searching for relevance exercise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 20, 2023 Share Posted September 20, 2023 5 hours ago, virginton said: It's a doctorate not a degree champ, and the facts still extend beyond page 1 of your latest, desperate, Google searching for relevance exercise. Ah, so sorry, Doctor Chump. Your desperate desire for my use of Google is as charming as it is in error. Swing and a miss, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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