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3 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Russia has opened a criminal case into some of the popular Telegram war bloggers - Igor Girkin, Grey Zone and War Gonzo apparently.  Girkin hasn't posted in a few days, unusual for him.

Gerasimov and Shoigu still have their jobs. Kadyrov was arse clenchingly nice about Putin about a week ago. So who ever he and Progihozin were running their mouths off for seems to have lost an internal battle in the Siloviki. Their chief propagandists are now looking at arrest. Russian politics has been a by word for opacity for over a century. But it seems who ever it was that pushed for mobilisation and escalation may have lost place in the pecking order and now cannot protect their capo's. Then again it may be a totally different story. 

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1: Why are you in jail?
2: I supported Wargonzo!
1: Thats crazy Im here because I was against Wargonzo
2: And why are you here #3?
3: I am Wargonzo.

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Kremlin political intrigues are comparable to a bulldog fight under a rug. An outsider only hears the growling, and when he sees the bones fly out from beneath it is obvious who won

Possibly a false quote but attributed to Churchill. 

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2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Power plant in Belgorod is on fire, electricity out to parts of the city.

Makes sense since it's been the staging post for most of the Russian troops that have entered Ukraine plus as others have mentioned there resupply lines are shite so this will make it even harder for them 

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4 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Would it not make more sense to clear the other bank of the Dniepr starting from north of Melitopol and Tokmak where the Ukrainians are already on the other bank? There are plenty of intact bridges firmly under Ukrainian control in the cities of Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro.  If the Ukrainians were able to advance down to the Sea of Azov from there all points further west under Russian occupation would have to be supplied over a less than fully functional Kerch bridge, which hopefully will become even less functional at some point in future.

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No. The area you posit attacking has been under control, and a battlefront, for some time. The defences in that area are likely to be in depth and relatively competent. A strike across the Dnipro toward Melitopol would be across open county with no established defence lines or positions. After that success, an attack from the north, as you suggested, would be more possible because the Russians would be preoccupied with the first strike, stripping troops from that area and Donetsk to attempt to protect their only solid supply line to Kherson. Meanwhile, the Kherson garrison would be facing a critical juncture, with a future of being surrounded and cut off.

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1 hour ago, Detournement said:

How to lose a war without firing a shot.

I guess we'll find out next year who's won the war as fuel prices drop and Russia loses its biggest market. They're already having to discount prices to compete on Asian markets and won't be able to significantly switch export capacity for years.

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7 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said:

Hopefully he gets captured quickly and winds up in The Hague over what happened to flight MH-17.

MSM lies, FAKE NEWS! 

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This time the Kremlin-controlled media has repeatedly claimed that: the airplane was not shot down at all, but fell out of the sky by itself; a bomb exploded aboard the airplane; the airplane was hit by a Ukrainian missile fired from the ground; a Ukrainian air force fighter pursued and then attacked the plane; the U.S. shot down the plane in order to damage Russia's reputation; no living people were aboard the plane as it flew on autopilot from Amsterdam, where it had been pre-loaded with "rotting corpses."

Difficult as it is to believe, that last, completely ridiculous TRUE version of events, which was put forward by Igor Girkin, the commander of the pro-Russian terrorists responsible for the tragedy, not only aired on all state-controlled media outlets, but was the subject of serious discussion.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150417205639/https://www.themoscowtimes.com/opinion/article/putins-media-lives-in-an-alternate-reality/504339.html

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