Jacksgranda Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Newbornbairn said: Love the idea that Bumblin' Boris, the second most inept PM in living memory is suddenly the master diplomat capable of deciding the defence policies of foreign countries. The daft c**t probably thought Zelenskey was his plumber. More likely thought he was the clown for one of the Downing Street parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Iron Curtain 2 currently under construction by the EU. 5 years ago the EU leaders were laughing at Trump and now they are doing exactly what he was demanding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 "We cannot let Putin win" sounds good, but what does it actually mean in practice? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 15 minutes ago, Detournement said: Iron Curtain 2 currently under construction by the EU. 5 years ago the EU leaders were laughing at Trump and now they are doing exactly what he was demanding. I hope they're making Russia pay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: "We cannot let Putin win" sounds good, but what does it actually mean in practice? It means "quit complaining about your bills and rapidly declining quality of life". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Detournement said: It means "quit complaining about your bills and rapidly declining quality of life". ^^^ doesn't know what it means either 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: ^^^ doesn't know what it means either It doesn't mean anything apart from being a sound bite to convince people that the economic sacrifice they are suffering is in service of a greater good. Edited October 19, 2022 by Detournement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, Detournement said: It doesn't mean anything apart from being a sound bite to convince people that the economic sacrifice they are suffering is in service of a greater good. Like “I knew what I was voting for with Brexit.” 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Like “I knew what I was voting for with Brexit.” The Brexit line doesn't really work here as we still have lower inflation than most of the EU. The UK is fucked. The EU is fucked. The UK would still be fucked in the EU. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, coprolite said: Wallace seems to have serious pot/kettle issues. The Tories also have some serious leadership issues, so it's time for any halfway ambitious minister to try and give it the hard man talk. Rarely has foreign policy been catered so much for a domestic and internal party audience as the UK's efforts throughout 2022. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorlomin Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Quote Furthermore, the Commission documented patterns of summary executions, unlawful confinement, torture, ill-treatment, rape and other sexual violence committed in areas occupied by Russian armed forces across the four regions on which it focused. People have been detained, some have been unlawfully deported to the Russian Federation, and many are still reported missing. Sexual violence has affected victims of all ages. Victims, including children, were sometimes forced to witness the crimes. Quote e. Over seven million people from Ukraine have sought refuge abroad and over six million are internally displaced. In most of the affected areas within Ukraine, essential supplies are lacking and there are access challenges for humanitarian assistance Quote 35. The ongoing hostilities have hampered the enjoyment of human rights and fundamental freedoms. Countless allegations of violations and abuses of human rights and international humanitarian law, and related crimes, have been reported. On 28 February 2022, the Prosecutor of the ICC opened an investigation into allegations of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide.12 Numerous other international and national entities have initiated investigations on allegations of crimes committed in Ukraine. Quote 65. Investigations in Kyiv, Chernihiv, Kharkiv, and Sumy regions reveal a pattern of summary executions in areas temporarily occupied by Russian armed forces in February and March 2022, which are violations of the right to life and war crimes. Quote 71. The Commission’s investigations show that the cause of death of the victims is consistent with methods typically used during executions: gunshot wounds to the heads, blunt trauma, or slit throats. In some cases, there was also evidence of torture on the bodies, such as bruises, wounds and fractures (see paras. 81-85 below). Quote 88. In the period and locations under review, the Commission has been investigating cases of rape committed by some Russian armed forces soldiers in localities that came under their control, which are war crimes. Victims range from four to over 80 years old. Perpetrators raped the women and girls in their homes or took them and raped them in unoccupied dwellings. In most cases, these acts also amount to torture and cruel or inhumane treatment for the victims and for relatives who were forced to watch. Other incidents of sexual violence were also documented against women, men, and girls. The Commission continues to investigate Quote A 56-year-old woman explained how two of the three Russian armed forces servicemen who broke into her home gang-raped her as the third one watched while masturbating. They stole food and money from her. She learned a couple of weeks later that, in a separate incident, her husband had been tortured and executed Quote 93. In Chernihiv and another region, the Commission has been investigating two cases of rape against women over 80 years old. An 83-year-old woman described how, while her village was occupied by Russian armed forces, she was raped by a Russian armed forces serviceman in her house where her physically disabled husband was also present. Quote 94. Also in Chernihiv region in March 2022, Russian armed forces occupied a home for more than one week. The unit commander repeatedly sexually abused a 16-year-old girl during that time and threatened to kill other family members who tried to protect her. Two of the Russian armed forces servicemen have been subsequently identified. Quote 96. In Kharkiv region, the Commission is investigating two cases regarding the repeated rape over a three-month period, of an adolescent girl, allegedly by a Russian armed forces soldier, a Quote 102. Moreover, the Commission has found that Russian armed forces unlawfully confined children in inhumane conditions. In one case, 70 children were among 365 civilians confined for 28 days by Russian armed forces inside a basement of a school in Yahidne, Chernihiv region, where the soldiers had established their base (see paras. 78 and 79 above). Some children fell sick and had no access to medication. The youngest child was only six weeks old. https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/A-77-533-AUV-EN.pdf I hope these scum burn in hell for eternity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Yeah but, NATO, but Tories, but Boris, but AMERICA! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Detournement said: It doesn't mean anything apart from being a sound bite to convince people that the economic sacrifice they are suffering is in service of a greater good. This isn't an unreasonable point in itself, but it relies on the UK public identifying that the sanctions being placed on Russia are the root cause of the cost of living crisis. I don't think the majority of the public link it to that, though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Iron Curtain 2 currently under construction by the EU. 5 years ago the EU leaders were laughing at Trump and now they are doing exactly what he was demanding. Slight comparison issue, as wasn’t responding to the capture of actual recon missions from the neighbour crossing the border and scouting Norway, sighting of similar individuals in Finland, and the neighbour actually being at war with another neighbour and having threatened you. Now, if Mexico was actively fighting Guatemala, Belize had captured Mexican nationals flying drone around security and power targets, and there were reports of Mexican spy’s who had evaded capture in the U.S., you might have a point…if Mexico had also threatened to nuke its neighbours too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 hours ago, Detournement said: Iron Curtain 2 currently under construction by the EU. 5 years ago the EU leaders were laughing at Trump and now they are doing exactly what he was demanding. And your point is.... ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 1 hour ago, dorlomin said: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/A-77-533-AUV-EN.pdf I hope these scum burn in hell for eternity. I'll pay over-the-odds leccy bills for the rest of my life for the slight chance of seeing every one of the occupiers incinerated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, badgerthewitness said: I'll pay over-the-odds leccy bills for the rest of my life for the slight chance of seeing every one of the occupiers incinerated. Why? The average body, cremated, can provide up to 150kWh of leccy…probably a banker to get that much, though. Just install recovery turbines, stack up those b*****ds, and put them to use! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Iranian kamikaze drones are one example of Russia having an economic advantage in the war. A report from a Ukrainian monitoring organisation has said that the cost of all the drones used by Russia against Ukraine is $18m as opposed to the cost of the missiles Ukraine has used to shoot down the drones, which has been around $28m. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 2 hours ago, dorlomin said: https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/2022-10/A-77-533-AUV-EN.pdf I hope these scum burn in hell for eternity. Horrific. And they're sure to find far more as they reclaim more captured territory. Not to mention those who've been forcibly transported and will never return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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