Jacksgranda Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 46 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Listening to Boris Johnson waffling on the late News last night, about the confusion and complexities caused by the NI Protocol. Three times in the space of sixty seconds he was asked, but this is your arrangement, it is your agreement, your proposal, YOU signed it, didn’t you Prime Minister?? He genuinely thinks it’s someone else’s doing. His position seems to be ‘yes I signed it, but I didn’t really understand how it might work in practice’. Incredible. "A big boy signed it and ran away". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Goes without saying that Redwood is a fucking clown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Any polls to suggest the majority of NI are against the protocol? Or is this another case of the noisy minority receiving far too much media attention for an issue that really isn’t seen as a problem for most 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 On 13/05/2022 at 15:46, Clown Job said: If it’s a choice between a crap trade deal with the EU and keeping unionist in NI happy… Reality is NI just isn’t worth it. It's less about keeping the Unionists happy than the Kippers in England, Johnson (or maybe Cummings) read the polls in 2019 that said approx. 60% of Leavers would be happy to let NI & Scotland go if it secured Brexit - Johnson will fuck the Unionists again if&when it suits him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: Any polls to suggest the majority of NI are against the protocol? Or is this another case of the noisy minority receiving far too much media attention for an issue that really isn’t seen as a problem for most John Redwood: B-b-but, yes, the fabric of communities … the EU intends to bully us and threaten the fabric of communities in Northern Ireland. It’s the very fabric of Northern Ireland’s communities that the EU is attempting to threaten. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Clown Job said: Any polls to suggest the majority of NI are against the protocol? Or is this another case of the noisy minority receiving far too much media attention for an issue that really isn’t seen as a problem for most Not sure about polls but they’ve just had an election and… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 ...37% of the eligible electorate didn't vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Jacksgranda said: ...37% of the eligible electorate didn't vote. So their opinion is irrelevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: So their opinion is irrelevant. I never said it was relevant. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Glenconner Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On 17/05/2022 at 18:22, Jacksgranda said: ...37% of the eligible electorate didn't vote. The Glasgow Evening Times did an article a couple of days after the local council elections here showing local councillors being elected on 4 and 5 % of the total eligible vote. I'd guess it wouldn't be that much different in parts of Greater Belfast depending on the election or referendum. 101 reasons why people don't vote. I'd guess most non voters in N.I. are happy enough be it King Billy or King Kong running the place. Chaining up the swings, closing the pubs on a Sunday, complete shutdown of dance halls by midnight on Saturday would seem bizarre now. Yet that's what local councils got up to in my childhood in Scotland and N.I. Admit that recent cash for ash scheme in N.I. seemed pretty tasty. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 On 17/05/2022 at 15:18, btb said: It's less about keeping the Unionists happy than the Kippers in England, Johnson (or maybe Cummings) read the polls in 2019 that said approx. 60% of Leavers would be happy to let NI & Scotland go if it secured Brexit - Johnson will fuck the Unionists again if&when it suits him. The irony is though that the NIP could wind up being of net benefit to NI economically in a way that messes up the world view of the kippers and SF as well as the DUP. 1 hour ago, Glenconner said: ...Chaining up the swings, closing the pubs on a Sunday, complete shutdown of dance halls by midnight on Saturday would seem bizarre now... On the bright side at least Stormont didn't try to ban contraception when folk got home from the dancing. Having any particular religious denomination dictating public policy is something that is best avoided and is something the RoI has also moved on from making a united Ireland less daunting as a prospect for Ulster Unionists than it was 50 years ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenconner Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 Part of me thinks the UI idea or ballot/poll idea is overhyped by certain folks to keep others onboard. Think most folk could live with N.I. remaining Brìtish but run along the lines of Belfast City Council. Throw in it being more Irish Ireland N.I. ie things like a Irish Language Act and a liberal society to placate the 21st Century version of the growing middle class. Loyal Order parades and bonfires, no problem because "themmuns" aren't actually in control of the place pre 1972 Stormont style. From recent visits post pandemic i knew the place had changed when i saw the cops on push bikes. Not exactly the Gaza Strip, is it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Glenconner said: The Glasgow Evening Times did an article a couple of days after the local council elections here showing local councillors being elected on 4 and 5 % of the total eligible vote. I'd guess it wouldn't be that much different in parts of Greater Belfast depending on the election or referendum. 101 reasons why people don't vote. I'd guess most non voters in N.I. are happy enough be it King Billy or King Kong running the place. Chaining up the swings, closing the pubs on a Sunday, complete shutdown of dance halls by midnight on Saturday would seem bizarre now. Yet that's what local councils got up to in my childhood in Scotland and N.I. Admit that recent cash for ash scheme in N.I. seemed pretty tasty. I remember that, too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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