BFTD Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 8 hours ago, craigkillie said: If we take 5 points from these 3 matches this time we won't be hoping our main competitors f**k it up though, since we'd be playing those main competitors twice in September. It's a different situation as five points would be about par from these three games; everyone's a competitor in the Nations League groups (except maybe the fourth tier). I'd only start thinking we were probably screwed already if we ended up with a point or less from the Armenia games. Five points and we're on course. Anyone who gets maximum points from these groups has put in a very decent showing indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 By all accounts, a mediocre ROI team are dominating Armenia away. 7 points should be our minimum target. Winning in Dublin would be a very good result, but it would still be below England, Austria, or Denmark. A draw would be the minimum expectation with our current relative squads strengths. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: By all accounts, a mediocre ROI team are dominating Armenia away. 7 points should be our minimum target. Winning in Dublin would be a very good result, but it would still be below England, Austria, or Denmark. A draw would be the minimum expectation with our current relative squads strengths. Still goalless, however Ooft, Armenia just had one disallowed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 28 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: By all accounts, a mediocre ROI team are dominating Armenia away. 7 points should be our minimum target. Winning in Dublin would be a very good result, but it would still be below England, Austria, or Denmark. A draw would be the minimum expectation with our current relative squads strengths. We should beating Armenia by at least 2 goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, BFTD said: Still goalless, however Ooft, Armenia just had one disallowed. ROI have the better players, and are dominating possession but creating next to nothing. Armenia could have scored twice, one disallowed and the other a worldly just past the upright. My impression of ROI is that they continue to be a route one team, with little flair, or creativity. Seems they haven’t changed much… All that noted, it may completely suit them to play a British-style game against us, and just lump the ball long all day. If they do, I’d be surprised if we didn’t do exactly the same thing… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: My impression of ROI is that they continue to be a route one team, with little flair, or creativity. Sounds similar to another team watched recently 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Binos said: Sounds similar to another team watched recently Shhh. That kind of nuance isn’t helpful here 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Cracking strike from Armenia. 1-0. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Armenia 1-0 up 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: Armenia 1-0 up Trust our bloody luck. Being drawn in the same group as Armenia just as they begin their rise to international dominance... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I don't think people are appreciating just how abysmal Ireland's form is. They've now picked up 2 wins in 17 competitive matches under Kenny. They didn't win a single game in their Nations League group last time but managed to stay up because Bulgaria lost all their games against everyone not named Ireland.We should be looking to win in Dublin next week - a draw wouldn't be a disaster but they are a mile off being the team of the O'Neill era who qualified for tournaments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Ha ha [emoji23] [emoji1787] [emoji38] [emoji1] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 The South Ireland banter years are still in full force. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, craigkillie said: I don't think people are appreciating just how abysmal Ireland's form is. They've now picked up 2 wins in 17 competitive matches under Kenny. They didn't win a single game in their Nations League group last time but managed to stay up because Bulgaria lost all their games against everyone not named Ireland. We should be looking to win in Dublin next week - a draw wouldn't be a disaster but they are a mile off being the team of the O'Neill era who qualified for tournaments. I don't believe in gods but after today's reassuring result, I'll concede an "amen to that!" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Missed the first half, but in the second Ireland didn't particularly look any better than when they lost to Luxembourg - they could still be playing now and wouldn't have scored. Armenia don't look a whole lot better, but at least occasionally looked dangerous on the break until they went ahead. Hopefully Steve Clarke's got some ideas for switching things around if we struggle to create chances against them, as it's not out of the question to imagine a game where we can't break them down and end up suffer accordingly. I'd missed that Norway just put nine past them. OYF. Being down to ten men for most of the game doesn't excuse that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Armenia were pretty shite in the first half. Parrott was constantly dropping outside their midfield three or even wider, and when they went out to press he usually managed to play inside with ease. They were dragged by Ireland's LHS quite a lot in the first half and also looked really susceptible to blind-side runs across their backline (like us!). Didn't offer anything on the break either. They were better in the second, tending to force Ireland back when they got the ball out wide and I think only got caught out by one direct pass in behind. Much more threat carrying the ball on the break, too, which worries me if they're running at Hanley and/or McKenna. Good players but certainly not the kind you want facing up an oncoming attacker. We'll need more threat from our outside CBs than Ireland's gave today to try and disrupt their shape, especially considering it'll be wing-back v wing-back, and McGinn should hopefully get opportunities to roll their LCB. I'm not feeling too great about the game over there tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 2 hours ago, craigkillie said: I don't think people are appreciating just how abysmal Ireland's form is. They've now picked up 2 wins in 17 competitive matches under Kenny. They didn't win a single game in their Nations League group last time but managed to stay up because Bulgaria lost all their games against everyone not named Ireland. We should be looking to win in Dublin next week - a draw wouldn't be a disaster but they are a mile off being the team of the O'Neill era who qualified for tournaments. I don't know much about the current Ireland team However their main chance it seems was missed by a Rotherham player, which tells you enough Doubt though we will go there 'looking' for a win more for a draw 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 In other evidence that we are indeed in strange times, Hungary are 1-0 up against England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, Binos said: I don't know much about the current Ireland team However their main chance it seems was missed by a Rotherham player, which tells you enough Doubt though we will go there 'looking' for a win more for a draw If Eire play like they did against Luxembourg and Armenia, we'll all be frothing if nobody manages to at least shank in a winner at some point. 3 minutes ago, Salt n Vinegar said: In other evidence that we are indeed in strange times, Hungary are 1-0 up against England. Didn't they just draw with the Magyars at Wembley? It's traditional for England not to learn lessons from a poor result against Hungary. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 hours ago, craigkillie said: I don't think people are appreciating just how abysmal Ireland's form is. They've now picked up 2 wins in 17 competitive matches under Kenny. They didn't win a single game in their Nations League group last time but managed to stay up because Bulgaria lost all their games against everyone not named Ireland. We should be looking to win in Dublin next week - a draw wouldn't be a disaster but they are a mile off being the team of the O'Neill era who qualified for tournaments. They also lost to Luxembourg Ireland are utter gash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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