Dons_1988 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 “Oh wouldn’t the English find us embarrassing” is a bit rangers-y imho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrational Behaviour Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Ticket sales are good for us. Don't know why people think otherwise. This will be the first time since the Hibs semi in 2000 where we'll have less than 10k at a venue which is essence 3 hours away. There's absolutely no way any other club bring that figure to Pittodrie outwith Celtic and Rangers. There's absolutely no incentive to go tomorrow. Horrific record against Celtic, horrific record at Hampden and officiated by some Glasgow numpties. Add in that it's £40 a ticket in the south stand. I can see why people have said no to going. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, Irrational Behaviour said: Ticket sales are good for us. Don't know why people think otherwise. This will be the first time since the Hibs semi in 2000 where we'll have less than 10k at a venue which is essence 3 hours away. There's absolutely no way any other club bring that figure to Pittodrie outwith Celtic and Rangers. There's absolutely no incentive to go tomorrow. Horrific record against Celtic, horrific record at Hampden and officiated by some Glasgow numpties. Add in that it's £40 a ticket in the south stand. I can see why people have said no to going. Don’t think you can call it good, because it’s not. But it is very explainable. If you put our semi final attendance range between 8k minimum and maybe a 20k maximum, pretty much every factor points to this one being at the lower end of that range. I don’t know anyone who’s looking forward to it, even if those who are going. I’m certainly not. I don’t know many who give us even really a punchers chance on Saturday. There’s no novelty to it being Celtic, no novelty to it being hampden. Hampden isn’t a great day out anyway. Not to mention the fact that this team is a very tough watch. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Irrational Behaviour said: Ticket sales are good for us. Don't know why people think otherwise. This will be the first time since the Hibs semi in 2000 where we'll have less than 10k at a venue which is essence 3 hours away. There's absolutely no way any other club bring that figure to Pittodrie outwith Celtic and Rangers. There's absolutely no incentive to go tomorrow. Horrific record against Celtic, horrific record at Hampden and officiated by some Glasgow numpties. Add in that it's £40 a ticket in the south stand. I can see why people have said no to going. This all depends on how folk think their team will do. Aberdeen fans think they'll get pumped, so they won't turn up. In your hypothetical situation of Hearts playing a semi at Pittodrie, it would likewise depend entirely on how we expected to do. Against the Old Firm in poor form? Shite turnout. Against Hibs in good form, we'd fill Pittodrie. Obviously, factor in kick-off times etc. It's basically as simple as that with Scottish attendances. Edited April 19 by VincentGuerin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennie makevin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 hours ago, Flybhoy said: Aye let's play a match that would be a sell out of circa 52,000 in a stadium that holds about 15k. Totally sensible and well thought out idea.... Scotland must genuinely be the only country in the football world that has scores of people who actively want to stop people attending matches, having thousands of empty seats at matches to satisfy keyboard warriors who don't want visiting fans in them is one thing but this fucking crackpot suggestion is the daddy of insecure pettiness........fucking hell Can you imagine Liverpool v Arsenal in the FA cup final being played at Molinuex in front of 40k instead of 95k at Wembley because Arsenal are from London where the national stadium is? Obviously that wouldn't happen because the English aren't as fucking embarrassing as some people up here, they have their faults and their football is a bit money orientated and tourist league but they would rightly cringe at some of the pish like this. English football would be well served by playing their cup semi-finals away from Wembley and London. Might bring back the 'magic' of the FA Cup Final.They have the facilities to do it. But back to Scotland . We, unlike England, are cursed with the cancerous presence of two vile secterian clubs. I have no interest in facilitating the slavering bigots who support the Old Firm to spread their bile at football matches. You clearly do. There we differ. I also want genuine neutrality for Cup semi-finals rather than always Glesga, Glesga, Glesga. You don't. You, as an Old Firm fan do not, in a football sense, understand the meaning of neutrality. You probably don't even think it's a good or desirable thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 13 hours ago, BucksburnDandy said: In my own case, my wife is working dayshift on Saturday so I'm home looking after the wee one (19 months old) as we've no family within 100 miles of us. I'd imagine for others a mix of family responsibilities like above, being put off by the crap season and for some, the ticket prices will be hard to justify. I'm not having a go but there will be fans of every club in similar situations. My wife would be getting told to take a holiday 1 hour ago, Irrational Behaviour said: Ticket sales are good for us. Don't know why people think otherwise. This will be the first time since the Hibs semi in 2000 where we'll have less than 10k at a venue which is essence 3 hours away. There's absolutely no way any other club bring that figure to Pittodrie outwith Celtic and Rangers. There's absolutely no incentive to go tomorrow. Horrific record against Celtic, horrific record at Hampden and officiated by some Glasgow numpties. Add in that it's £40 a ticket in the south stand. I can see why people have said no to going. They aren't good they are shite. If Hearts and Hibs were for some bizarre reason playing a semi final of the Scottish in Aberdeen they'd take more than 8k as would both Dundee teams I'd imagine. The incentive is its a cup semi final watching your team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 43 minutes ago, Aylo vanal said: I'm not having a go but there will be fans of every club in similar situations. My wife would be getting told to take a holiday They aren't good they are shite. If Hearts and Hibs were for some bizarre reason playing a semi final of the Scottish in Aberdeen they'd take more than 8k as would both Dundee teams I'd imagine. The incentive is its a cup semi final watching your team. You are the world’s best fan. Well done, you may rub yourself smugly now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, VincentGuerin said: This all depends on how folk think their team will do. Aberdeen fans think they'll get pumped, so they won't turn up. In your hypothetical situation of Hearts playing a semi at Pittodrie, it would likewise depend entirely on how we expected to do. Against the Old Firm in poor form? Shite turnout. Against Hibs in good form, we'd fill Pittodrie. Obviously, factor in kick-off times etc. It's basically as simple as that with Scottish attendances. Yeah it’s basically as simple as that. Every club has a fan base ranging from the hardcore up to cup final only day trippers. The number of layers of that fan base you attract to these fixtures is based on a number of factors but opportunity to actually win is pretty high up there. Most of us have seen the Aberdeen v Celtic movie at hampden more times than we care to remember. It isn’t attractive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 minutes ago, coprolite said: You are the world’s best fan. Well done, you may rub yourself smugly now. Thanks. You enjoy watching your team from the couch scared to lose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 4 minutes ago, Aylo vanal said: Thanks. You enjoy watching your team from the couch scared to lose. Fucksake Hearts are on a high just now, enjoy it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunfermline Don Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 If Aberdeen were playing any team outwith Celtic or Rangers I might have considered going, however games at Hampden against those teams are definitely not worth the price that the SFA are charging, so it’s a no from me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, Aylo vanal said: Thanks. You enjoy watching your team from the couch scared to lose. If only I was a brave super fan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 20 hours ago, kennie makevin said: It's not a league game it's a supposedly 'neutral' national cup final. The real scandal is why it's played in Glasgow at all. A totally full Tannadice would be both fairer geographically and more atmospheric than a three quarter full Hampden.....and making Hampden exclusively the venue for the final only adds to the day. I wouldn't be adverse to having a national stadium elsewhere but moving a semi that will sell out to a stadium that is about a third of the size of Hampden is a monumentally stupid suggestion. Edited April 19 by gannonball 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 There isn't really an alternative to Hampden that makes any sense. It's not perfect, but it's hard to justify a move anywhere else. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I think it's also hard to justify the claim that Hampden isn't a neutral venue for these fixtures just because it is in Glasgow, never mind label it a 'scandal'. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, AJF said: I think it's also hard to justify the claim that Hampden isn't a neutral venue for these fixtures just because it is in Glasgow, never mind label it a 'scandal'. It’s not just because it’s Glasgow. Rangers and Celtic having ends kind of suggests that it’s more theirs than other teams’. Not relevant to the neutrality really, but it’s also not just in Glasgow but on the far side of Glasgow for 90% of the population. At least Wembley is on the right side of London for the majority of travelling fans. All kind of adds to a perception that fans from outside Glasgow are a bit of an afterthought and not who it’s for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 20 hours ago, betting competition said: Less than 8k, which is frankly disgraceful. Supporters Clubs are facing difficulties in selling bus seats. This poses a future issue for us in attempting to achieve a 50/50 split for the cup final if we emerge victorious. The starting point should always be 50/50. Clubs should then state from the outset how much they want, with a mixture of fixed timings to hand to opponents and ultimately financial penalties for non-sales if the demand was there from the opponents. Our semi demand is generally 8-16k depending on a number of factors; form, pricing, kick off time, opposition, live TV options, mood around the club, how many other times we’ve been to Hampden already this season etc etc On this occasion, many folk have been chased away by one or more of the above and we’re on the low side of the curve. It certainly isn’t “disgraceful”. I’ll be there though - leaving the house at 7, happy days. Edited April 19 by tarapoa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aylo vanal Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 3 hours ago, AJF said: I think it's also hard to justify the claim that Hampden isn't a neutral venue for these fixtures just because it is in Glasgow, never mind label it a 'scandal'. What end will celtic be in tomorrow? What part of the country is the referee and governing body from? How many refs are from outside Glasgow and Renfrewshire? What city are celtic from? They have the advantages before a ball is kicked, Having more fans there is another one but that's not their fault 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 I think most non OF fans would tell you that hampden is destined to be ‘neutral’ in the context of rangers vs Celtic, and everyone else is a bit of an inconvenience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 41 minutes ago, Aylo vanal said: What end will celtic be in tomorrow? What part of the country is the referee and governing body from? How many refs are from outside Glasgow and Renfrewshire? What city are celtic from? They have the advantages before a ball is kicked, Having more fans there is another one but that's not their fault But my point being, Hampden is still a neutral venue. That doesn't change just because Celtic and Rangers happen to be in the same city. A team's proximity to a stadium doesn't make it any less neutral for them nor does who is refereeing it nor does what section the fans sit in. Nobody would be crying it's a scandal if Queens Park and Partick Thistle were playing in place of Celtic and Rangers this weekend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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