Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 43 minutes ago, velo army said: The media and pundit class need to take responsibility for this. If VAR is to be scrapped I want pundits to remind the viewer that football rules are often subjectively applied and that this is part of experiencing the sport we love. A bit of humour when looking at refereeing decisions in the studio wouldn't go amiss, instead of the "did he get it right or wrong?" debate and accompanying hysteria. This only fans the flames of fans' ire. Obviously it's in the interests of broadcasters to foment such outrage, but I'm not without hope that the standard of debate and commentary can be raised above the screeching inanity of Micah Richards, the huffy meanderings of Michael Stewart or any of the other interchangeable tattie heided oafs we're subjected to. You can add players and managers who constantly trot out 'the ref needs to get the big calls right' every time they've lost a game cause they feel they didn't. Refs are human, they make mistakes, we all need to accept it. Fans will debate those decisions endlessly regardless, it's part of the fun 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 hours ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Refs are human, they make mistakes, we all need to accept it. Fans will debate those decisions endlessly regardless, it's part of the fun Right, but we've all seen how they make mistakes that benefit certain teams and not others. I don't think we should "accept it". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 7 minutes ago, Ric said: Right, but we've all seen how they make mistakes that benefit certain teams and not others. I don't think we should "accept it". Rangers and Celtic have had 32 penalties between them and conceded 6 this season, so I'm not sure VAR is doing much to alleviate concerns of neutrality among referees 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 3 minutes ago, Insert Amusing Pseudonym said: Rangers and Celtic have had 32 penalties between them and conceded 6 this season, so I'm not sure VAR is doing much to alleviate concerns of neutrality among referees I think the difference is that officials no longer have the excuse that it was a split second decision with no ability to review it. The Lundstam tackle being a prime example of the wrong decision given and I would suggest it was only a yellow in the first place because it was one of the OF. It's all conjecture of course. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Quote Football's world governing body Fifa is trialling a new video assistant referee (VAR) system with two tennis-style reviews per match. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckr5gy50lxmo Quote Managers can challenge a decision by "twirling their finger in the air and giving the fourth official a card", said Fifa referees’ chief Pierluigi Collina. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 19 minutes ago, The Master said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ckr5gy50lxmo Maybe just maybe, there is already a version of the game which has proved vastly popular for over a century… 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Absolutely no way was ohara 2nd a penalty today Football has completely lost it 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Here's the FIFA explainer for the new "Video Support" system they're trialing. Primarily based on reviews being requested by team officials, but the Fourth Official will check the footage for goal-related incidents. https://inside.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/news/what-is-football-video-support They emphasise, though, that it's not seen as a replacement for VAR but rather an alternative for use in leagues/competitions where the costs associated with VAR are seen as prohibitive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 19 hours ago, The Master said: Here's the FIFA explainer for the new "Video Support" system they're trialing. Primarily based on reviews being requested by team officials, but the Fourth Official will check the footage for goal-related incidents. https://inside.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/news/what-is-football-video-support They emphasise, though, that it's not seen as a replacement for VAR but rather an alternative for use in leagues/competitions where the costs associated with VAR are seen as prohibitive. Can't afford VAR? Don't worry, here at FIFA, we have price plans to suit everyone's wallet, so there's no reason that you too, can't f**k up a perfectly good product for no reason. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: Can't afford VAR? Don't worry, here at FIFA, we have price plans to suit everyone's wallet, so there's no reason that you too, can't f**k up a perfectly good product for no reason. I was going to say is one of the prohibitive costs of VAR that it’s fucking shite and doesn’t work. But I decided to be above that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) The EPL has voted to retain VAR. No chance of us binning it now. Edit: the vote was 19-1. Only Wolves voted in favour of their own motion to scrap it. Edited June 6 by The Master 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I find that so fucking wild. The EPL is a complete circus man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 I guess the other side of the argument would be that if the league with the most money can’t get it to work, then that is more reason to scrap our version. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloPerth Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 Yes absolutely bonkers. Only one club wants rid of this circus?!! There must have been some behind the scenes shenanigans going on to get them all onside. I don’t think clubs should be voting anyway, it’s supporters who have to suffer this and should have the say. On most big decisions in football, I don’t think owners, managers, coaches and players have the best interests of the game at heart generally, they care more about self preservation or lining their own pocket from the sport. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatmygoal Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 16 minutes ago, PauloPerth said: Yes absolutely bonkers. Only one club wants rid of this circus?!! There must have been some behind the scenes shenanigans going on to get them all onside. I don’t think clubs should be voting anyway, it’s supporters who have to suffer this and should have the say. On most big decisions in football, I don’t think owners, managers, coaches and players have the best interests of the game at heart generally, they care more about self preservation or lining their own pocket from the sport. I guess this is why fan ownership is so important where possible. That's the only way to really have any influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 2 hours ago, The Master said: The EPL has voted to retain VAR. No chance of us binning it now. Edit: the vote was 19-1. Only Wolves voted in favour of their own motion to scrap it. Not even Nottingham Forest? Anyone care to speculate why that was after all the fuss they made about it towards the end of the season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 19-1 is disappointing. I never expected them to vote it out but even 6-7 PL clubs coming out against it would’ve been a real statement and pressure put on to at least make attempts to make it better or work. The worry here is such a resounding defeat kills it dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 12 hours ago, Dons_1988 said: 19-1 is disappointing. I never expected them to vote it out but even 6-7 PL clubs coming out against it would’ve been a real statement and pressure put on to at least make attempts to make it better or work. The worry here is such a resounding defeat kills it dead. Yep. I read the outcome with a lot of disappointment. Given the status the EPL holds (rightly or wrongly), many other nations would've been looking at this with interest and for the motion to fail so heavily just sets back any effort to remove it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 I'm not surprised by the vote. The technology does what was designed to do. I think they need to invest more in training and establish how they want the video evidence to be interpreted. It would also help if the offside rule was changed a bit, so that tiny margin situations are not offside. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 7 Share Posted June 7 15 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'm not surprised by the vote. The technology does what was designed to do. I think they need to invest more in training and establish how they want the video evidence to be interpreted. It would also help if the offside rule was changed a bit, so that tiny margin situations are not offside. Regardless of how offside is defined, you will always have “tiny marginal situations”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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