DukDukGoose Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 32 minutes ago, G51 said: keith Love some of the replies. "Maybe he didn't get a chance to look at it." He's been posting about it for the past year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, G51 said: keith That's unbelievable. There's no doubt that the vast majority of the public would want fire & rehire banned. What possible upside could there be for Starmer? They really shouldn't be allowed to call themselves Labour any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 37 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: This is what happens when you try to be Tory lite and pander to fucking bigots. If Labour do as badly as some are saying you would genuinely have to think that Starmer is a goner. I know, but they tried the “1970’s Corbyn type Labour” and it was a disaster also. Labour are in a dreadful place. Either pander to all these trade union lunatics, or try and make themselves “electable” with a Blair type approach! No win situation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Just now, Glen Sannox said: I know, but they tried the “1970’s Corbyn type Labour” and it was a disaster also. Labour are in a dreadful place. Either pander to all these trade union lunatics, or try and make themselves “electable” with a Blair type approach! No win situation. Labour's woes have literally nothing to do with their industrial and employment policies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saltire Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Well now I am confused! How does a third placed party deliver a national recovery in a collective mission if it won't work with anyone else? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, GordonS said: Labour's woes have literally nothing to do with their industrial and employment policies. Literally nothing you say. I would disagree with that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 The leadership and the PLP are a bunch of self serving arseholes, more worried about using their positions to launch into other roles with bookmakers, pay day lenders and such. Self important careerists more interested in appeasing a handful of pseudo Tory wealthy donors than advocating for the transformative change that millions in this country need. Absolutely nothing but contempt for these sneering hypocrites who consistently throw tantrums everytime they don't get their way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 One of Labours problems is that the modern day divide is less about the North and the South (though that divide definitely still exists), and more about homeowners vs renters. Places in the "Red Wall" have a huge number of homeowners. These places aren't safe Labour seats because Labour no longer aligns with their economic interests. Safe Labour seats are in the cities these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Seriously, if Labour's collective arse gets tanned in England tonight any non-Indy vote in Scotland last night was effectively a "Boris - come in and shag Scotland" vote. Shame on every one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Absolutely. The media would have you think that the red wall is all boys in flat caps turning Tory. The reality is that it it's a pretty large number of pensioners and, homeowners and business owners with two cars being described as working class, while young renters on shit wages in London are the metropolitan elite. Just another day on normal island tbh. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: Literally nothing you say. I would disagree with that. That's because it suits your political opinions, but there's nothing in the research to support it. In fact, a lack of support for workers is one of the things that has harmed them. Lower paid workers, especially in traditional working class areas, believe Labour cares much more about social and identity issues than economic issues that matter to them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Hartlepool has had a Labour MP since 1964. The Labour hopeful is already feeling like a Hartlepool goalkeeper during a cup-tie at the Etihad, I suspect 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Met the Labour party at a charity do once, they were surprisingly down to earth and very funny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Met the Labour party at a charity do once, they were surprisingly down to earth and very funny. Well I didn’t know there was an area of Northumberland which sounded like a 1930s female aviator. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Antlion said: Well I didn’t know there was an area of Northumberland which sounded like a 1930s female aviator. I think there's a place in Aberdeen with the same name. Must have been some girl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Oaft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 All that Union Jackery seems to be working out just swell for Sir Keith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: I think there's a place in Aberdeen with the same name. Must have been some girl. There is. But it's all one word. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayrmad Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Wonder if there's a lesson in Liebours apparent shoeing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Well. Thos just confirms that we desperately need to get away from Fascist England. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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