Salt n Vinegar Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 hours ago, Clown Job said: mother of all Parliaments eh? May be, maybe, but there's so many bad 'uns sniffing around her, nobody has a clue who the father is! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 19/01/2022 at 13:58, NotThePars said: Actual Tories are welcome in the Labour Party but not Jeremy Corbyn or Ken Loach. Make sure you give your backing though and STFU. And surprise, sur-fucking-prise, years too fucking late.. I would dearly love to see Ken, in particular stand against that UJ mask-wearing turncoat in the next election - one lost "Labour" deposit I would not mourn. No-one, I repeat No-one could possibly run for election on that tory manifesto, continually vote like a good wee party lickspittle and be fit to represent working people just two years later. If he's serious, let him resign his seat and let the CLP select who they want to represent the Party in the resulting by-election. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that traitor. Just because he's crossed the floor in the "right" direction doesn't make him trustworthy, quite the opposite. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: And surprise, sur-fucking-prise, years too fucking late.. I would dearly love to see Ken, in particular stand against that UJ mask-wearing turncoat in the next election - one lost "Labour" deposit I would not mourn. No-one, I repeat No-one could possibly run for election on that tory manifesto, continually vote like a good wee party lickspittle and be fit to represent working people just two years later. If he's serious, let him resign his seat and let the CLP select who they want to represent the Party in the resulting by-election. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that traitor. Just because he's crossed the floor in the "right" direction doesn't make him trustworthy, quite the opposite. If someone defected the other way, would there be Tories saying "We can't take him! He used to be one of them!" No - they'd rub the Labour faces in it over and over again. They wouldn't bother themselves with checking the purity of the soul of the newcomer, they focus on winning elections instead. Labour should do exactly the same. This defection is a gift as it is a message to the swing voters who are not usually engaged in politics which way the tide is turning. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zern Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: If someone defected the other way, would there be Tories saying "We can't take him! He used to be one of them!" No - they'd rub the Labour faces in it over and over again. They wouldn't bother themselves with checking the purity of the soul of the newcomer, they focus on winning elections instead. Labour should do exactly the same. This defection is a gift as it is a message to the swing voters who are not usually engaged in politics which way the tide is turning. They did. And now that he is a Labour MP the dissection of his character and flaws begins. It's a sign of his acceptance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 (edited) I suppose it's not the kind of thing that would be made public, but has any sitting MP ever been turned down by a party they wanted to defect to? Edit: which sitting MPs would be turned down by parties, and why? They'd all probably take anyone with a bit of public dedication to their new cause, wouldn't they? Edited January 21, 2022 by BFTD 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 3 hours ago, scottsdad said: If someone defected the other way, would there be Tories saying "We can't take him! He used to be one of them!" No - they'd rub the Labour faces in it over and over again. They wouldn't bother themselves with checking the purity of the soul of the newcomer, they focus on winning elections instead. Labour should do exactly the same. This defection is a gift as it is a message to the swing voters who are not usually engaged in politics which way the tide is turning. It's opportunism, no more than that, and about as sincere as a lifelong Falkirk fan suddenly supporting Dunfermline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I suppose it's not the kind of thing that would be made public, but has any sitting MP ever been turned down by a party they wanted to defect to? Edit: which sitting MPs would be turned down by parties, and why? They'd all probably take anyone with a bit of public dedication to their new cause, wouldn't they?No one would surely touch JRM with the proverbial barge pole ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: No one would surely touch JRM with the proverbial barge pole ? If he announced that he'd had a Damascene change of heart, castigated the Tories for grinding money out of the people at the bottom of society, and publicly dedicated himself to helping those less fortunate? Labour would be all over that shit. The Lib Dems would take him even if he admitted to shooting the proles for sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Remember when Ian Murray was ready to jump ship but shat it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivo den Bieman Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 5 hours ago, WhiteRoseKillie said: And surprise, sur-fucking-prise, years too fucking late.. I would dearly love to see Ken, in particular stand against that UJ mask-wearing turncoat in the next election - one lost "Labour" deposit I would not mourn. No-one, I repeat No-one could possibly run for election on that tory manifesto, continually vote like a good wee party lickspittle and be fit to represent working people just two years later. If he's serious, let him resign his seat and let the CLP select who they want to represent the Party in the resulting by-election. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be that traitor. Just because he's crossed the floor in the "right" direction doesn't make him trustworthy, quite the opposite. it's...almost as though, much like the Old Firm, Labour & Tory are two cheeks of the same arse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Sir Keef is in Glasgow today 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 On 21/01/2022 at 18:19, Billy Jean King said: On 21/01/2022 at 17:37, BFTD said: I suppose it's not the kind of thing that would be made public, but has any sitting MP ever been turned down by a party they wanted to defect to? Edit: which sitting MPs would be turned down by parties, and why? They'd all probably take anyone with a bit of public dedication to their new cause, wouldn't they? No one would surely touch JRM with the proverbial barge pole ? JRM has six kids..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 40 minutes ago, doulikefish said: Sir Keef is in Glasgow today Chance for @WhiteRoseKillie to meet a genuine working class hero! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) Labour simply aren't tough enough for the Tories shenanigans. Now that Johnson has completely wriggled out of this mess (nap on the Met report being 'published around November this year, by which time no-one will care, and the Gray report never seeing the light of day), Starmer will have to move onto other ground. If they had a bruiser like Andy Burnham in there who would continue to hound Johnson, maybe, but Starmer is way too polite, and part of the establishment. Tories always have the major advantage when it comes to corruption, Labour can't fish in the same pool. Edited January 28, 2022 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Is that meant to help convince Scot’s to vote for Labour or is that meant to appeal to English voters? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antlion Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Is that meant to help convince Scot’s to vote for Labour or is that meant to appeal to English voters? “Sure, you can push for a divisive referendum on whether or not to remain locked in Brexit Britain, or…” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 In this clip, the bold Jack Straw who last came to my notice, alongside Malcolm Rifkind, during the cash for access scandal, does his best to win over the wavering SNP vote 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Chance for [mention=37891]WhiteRoseKillie[/mention] to meet a genuine working class hero!Apart from the geographic clue in my username, the only chance of our paths crossing would be if he decided to attend Durham Miners Gala. Can't see it, tbh - he might catch Socialism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteRoseKillie Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 In this clip, the bold Jack Straw who last came to my notice, alongside Malcolm Rifkind, during the cash for access scandal, does his best to win over the wavering SNP vote The only guest speaker at over twenty years of POA conference that I ever walked out on. A vain, lying, cheating cűnt who personified the very worst of Blair's government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 (edited) Would certainly help if Labour took this opportunity to actually put some policy proposals on the table, on say the economy. health and crime. This is their chance to make a 'big' offer, not in 2 years time. They could also be taking about how they will 'clean up' politics. All they are asking for at the moment is VAT to be scrapped on energy bills (albeit it should be) Edited February 1, 2022 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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