AMMjag Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Keir Starmer's advisors 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Certainly very disappointed by the appointment of Anas Sarwar, would have much prefered Monica Lennon. Both as a more genuine character, and not in the 'New' Labour mould, and also having a more realistic opinion of the constitutional question. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 I'm guessing that the only people disappointed by SLab's new appointment are Labour party members. The Tories and SNP will be happy enough that Labour's decline is being appropriately managed. Bit of a minter that there's no sign of the Greens becoming Scotland's third party TBH, but still hope for fruitcakes like those wee bigoted family parties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 @AnasSarwar what is your policy towards flegs & suit jaikets? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 So it turns out Keir Starmer is a shit. https://novaramedia.com/2021/03/02/keir-starmer-is-a-long-time-servant-of-the-british-security-state/ Some pretty sickening stuff in here, none of which will likely surprise anyone. Still though, would have been nice to know this before he became Labour leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, G51 said: So it turns out Keir Starmer is a shit. https://novaramedia.com/2021/03/02/keir-starmer-is-a-long-time-servant-of-the-british-security-state/ Some pretty sickening stuff in here, none of which will likely surprise anyone. Still though, would have been nice to know this before he became Labour leader. To be honest, I'm at the point whereby I couldn't give shiny shite about the particulars of Westminster politicians. The entire thing is irredeemably corrupt, and the only thing that concerns me now is Scotland uncoupling itself from an increasingly English Nationalist state, in which even the 'left' have to pander to jingoistic, flag-waving morons who have a hard-on for military fetishism and worship the past. For decades the UK has been gradually descending into the sort of place that I just don't want to be part of, and the UK parties are now reflective of that in the sort of people they are electing to lead. This is a case of 'you get the politicians you deserve' as much as it is Starmer pandering to anything for me, so it's unsurprising to learn that England is getting politicians that are reflective of an insular, xenophobic, and narrow-minded outlook in the wider population, and that rather than attempting to stand up to it and correct it, they're going for the far more cowardly option of jumping on the bandwagon. It was a total disappointment of a Labour government that convinced me of the need for Independence, and I've never really held any hope that Labour would somehow find a way to change my mind on that. As you say, I'm not remotely surprised that Starmer is turning out to be every bit the self-owning facepalm that New Labour was. Edited March 2, 2021 by Boo Khaki 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 2 hours ago, G51 said: So it turns out Keir Starmer is a shit. https://novaramedia.com/2021/03/02/keir-starmer-is-a-long-time-servant-of-the-british-security-state/ Some pretty sickening stuff in here, none of which will likely surprise anyone. Still though, would have been nice to know this before he became Labour leader. Impressive to come out of a punitive justice issue looking more authoritarian than Theresa May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 (edited) So it turns out his instruction to abstain on the decriminalisation of torture, rape and murder by the state wasn't borne out of an abhorrent approach to political expediency in thinking it was necessary to ignore all principles to appeal to the electorate. As a point of principle he just genuinely believes that torture is good, actually. This story coming along at the same time as the Liverpool scabbing which also has a whiff of racism about it and his net favourability going negative, while the Tories rise in the polls. Is there a chance the centre of the party will start turning against him with him being Labour's IDS and never making it as far as an election? Edited March 3, 2021 by Dunning1874 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 He's almost done I think. A genuine galaxy brain idea by the right of the party to annoint someone who only appeals to Guardian commentators and was going to continue the civil war and purge the left, rather than build bridges. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 4 hours ago, Dunning1874 said: So it turns out his instruction to abstain on the decriminalisation of torture, rape and murder by the state wasn't borne out of an abhorrent approach to political expediency in thinking it was necessary to ignore all principles to appeal to the electorate. As a point of principle he just genuinely believes that torture is good, actually. This story coming along at the same time as the Liverpool scabbing which also has a whiff of racism about it and his net favourability going negative, while the Tories rise in the polls. Is there a chance the centre of the party will start turning against him with him being Labour's IDS and never making it as far as an election? Same with that little creep David Miliband all the Fantasy Politics nerds obsessed over. A gormless looking creep who probably enjoyed presiding over extradition. 35 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: He's almost done I think. A genuine galaxy brain idea by the right of the party to annoint someone who only appeals to Guardian commentators and was going to continue the civil war and purge the left, rather than build bridges. Everyone that sincerely believed he had a better chance of winning an election than Corbyn should be committing ritual seppuku when he goes. This country would have a much healthier media climate if we killed a random 5% of the commentariat who called any major event wrong. There'd have been no one left from Brexit let alone something like the Iraq War. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 11 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Same with that little creep David Miliband all the Fantasy Politics nerds obsessed over. A gormless looking creep who probably enjoyed presiding over extradition. He's absolutely up there with Miliband and Jack Straw types who genuinely get aroused by the idea of approving such acts to look tougher than the Tories. Just a fundamentally appalling human being. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 So they think increasing corporation tax is austerity and they oppose it as to aid the recovery no one should be paying more, even businesses making massively increased profits. However they're fine with low paid workers having to pay more? Pasokification is on the way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Dunning1874 said: So they think increasing corporation tax is austerity and they oppose it as to aid the recovery no one should be paying more, even businesses making massively increased profits. However they're fine with low paid workers having to pay more? Pasokification is on the way. I was just about to post that. Absolutely unreal. The Tories have been raising the personal allowance as an acknowledgement that real wages have been in decline or stagnant for a decade. Now we are another going to have a decade of no wage rises without any relief. As you say it hits the lowest paid hardest. Sickening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Working for minimum wage is going to be magic for the next 4+ years, now that it's going to be slowly reducing. I don't think most people realise exactly how close to the breadline that actually is. I guess there's always prostitution. Any takers? No? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 The sensible adults doing a quite magnificent job. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NotThePars Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Listen, I walk a lonely road The only one that I have ever known Don't know where it goes But it's home to me, and I walk alone I walk this empty street On the Boulevard of Broken Dreams Where the city sleeps And I'm the only one, and I walk alone But any other leader would be 20 points ahead at this point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SANTAN Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Sir Keir is laying the ground work, he'll get more traction as we come out of the pandemic and before any GE. Then when's all said and done we can contrast with the ever so successful, universally lauded, the greatest leader we never had... corbo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolo2143 Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Stormzy said: Sir Keir is laying the ground work, he'll get more traction as we come out of the pandemic and before any GE. Then when's all said and done we can contrast with the ever so successful, universally lauded, the greatest leader we never had... corbo. He's laying the ground work all right, the groundwork to ensure another Tory majority in 2024. Which means the UK & Scotland, if it doesn't wake up, will be stuck with him & Brexit Britain until 2029 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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